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Oral history transcript, George E. Christian, interview 5 (V), 7/1/1971, by Joe B. Frantz (Item)

that when he asked for something he ought to get it. And it went from there. I think it affected the Fortas appointment to some extent. Senator Russell finally opposed Fortas. President Johnson had a very clear impression, as did others of us

Oral history transcript, Bertrand Harding, interview 1 (I), 11/20/1968, by Stephen Goodell (Item)

Oral history transcript, W. DeVier Pierson, interview 2 (II), 3/20/1969, by Dorothy Pierce (McSweeny) (Item)

anonymity. Mc: What occasions did your name appear in the press, Mr. Pierson? P: Oh, in connection with the Fortas thing; we talked about that when I was asked to come testify; of course several times in connection with the Trans-Pacific Case

Oral history transcript, James R. Jones, interview 4 (IV), 1/28/1985, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

Democratic convention; LBJ’s relationships with Nguyen Cao Ky and Nguyen Van Thieu; LBJ’s 1969 farewell address to Congress; the Fortas/Thornberry Supreme Court incident; LBJ farewell get-together at the White House; LBJ’s problem with TV appearances; Robert

Oral history transcript, Nash Castro, interview 6 (VI), 3/4/1996, by Harry Middleton (Item)

. I think Carol Fortas in the beginning was very effective; she withdrew because of age. Pamela Harriman has been a good board member throughout the years. George Hartzog in the beginning was very helpful, and Mary Lasker, of course. Bob Lederer, who

Oral history transcript, Richard H. Rovere, interview 1 (I), 5/6/1969, by Paige E. Mulhollan (Item)

to the presidency. He brought other people and there were several changes at the same time. I don't remember them all. I think, incidentally, he brought Moyers in and Fortas in at the same time, didn't he? t'l : Pre t ty c 1os e _ R: It was in the same

Oral history transcript, Elizabeth Rowe, interview 2 (II), 6/16/1975, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh E. Rowe--U--12 fairy godmother and would underwrite great planting. marvelous person. She's a And of course she had done some planting in New York. G: How about Carol Agger Fortas? R: She was not too active

Oral history transcript, Lloyd N. Cutler, interview 1 (I), 4/12/1969, by William Helmer (Item)

, or mild juniors of his such as Mr. Johnson. But when Mr. Johnson came into the presidency we reverted back, as we naturally would. He naturally turned to his friends and the men upon whom he had counted over the years, men like Justice Fortas, like Clark

Oral history transcript, J. Waddy Bullion, interview 1 (I), 5/28/1969, by David G. McComb (Item)

there to sign up the trust instrument. M: I understand that Sheldon Cohen worked out a trust instrument. B: Well, it was worked out in the Arnold and Fortas and Porter firm, that's true. M: And as I recall, Sheldon Cohen was with the firm at the moment? B

Oral history transcript, Nash Castro, interview 5 (V), 5/1/1969, by Joe B. Frantz (Item)

in animal welfare matters, and she called Carol Fortas, who has also been concerned with that kind of thing, and between them and a lady in Maryland, a Mrs. Reviere [?], we worked out arrangements under which the mules were taken to a farm. She paid

Oral history transcript, Patrick V. Murphy, interview 1 (I), 3/13/1969, by T.H. Baker (Item)

. At that time the nomination of Justice Fortas as Chief Justice was under consideration, and because some controversy was brewing in the Senate about that nomination no action was ever taken on my nomination; and it was therefore delayed for several weeks until

Oral history transcript, Earle Wheeler, interview 1 (I), 8/21/1969, by Dorothy Pierce (McSweeny) (Item)

,r--tr. Justice Fortas ~"/ould attend the luncheons. From time to time--this was after General Taylor returned from being retired as ambassador to South Vietnam--General Taylor would attend. LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org

Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 10 (X), 9/23/1987, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

: Well, I had a meeting--these memos are all dated August 23, and I see in my book here I had a meeting on Saturday, August 21; this book is invaluable. I mean I just never [remembered]--I forgot all about the meeting--my first seeing of Fortas when I

Oral history transcript, Alain C. Enthoven, interview 1 (I), 12/27/1968, by Dorothy Pierce (McSweeny) (Item)

of the different people. He described He said that he'd had Justice Fortas and Clark Clifford there as two men who were completely independent and detached from the whole thing and had no particular involvement, who could just sit in the corner and watch

Oral history transcript, Tom C. Clark, interview 1 (I), 10/7/1969, by Joe B. Frantz (Item)

Oral history transcript, Clark M. Clifford, interview 3 (III), 7/14/1969, by Paige E. Mulhollan (Item)

, Ambassador Robert Murphy had not changed, I think Justice Fortas had not changed in his attitude, so that--I know you'll have the specific records on it--but if there were twelve at the first senior advisers meeting, there may have been fourteen or fifteen

Oral history transcript, Solis Horwitz, interview 1 (I), 6/9/1969, by Paige E. Mulhollan (Item)

. Fortas already a close friend at that time? H: Oh~ yes. days. They had been close friends going back to the Roosevelt LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID

Oral history transcript, Herman Talmadge, interview 1 (I), 7/17/1969, by T.H. Baker (Item)

unwise choices on the Supreme Court. B: That would be Justice Marshall and Justice Fortas. T: Yes. B: I would assume that's because of their libertarian views? T: Yes, sir. They had the idea that the Court was supposed to change the Constitution

Oral history transcript, Edwin L. Weisl, Jr., interview 1 (I), 10/30/1968, by Joe B. Frantz (Item)

: Johnson had originally offered me a post on the Securities Exchange That's right. Commission in about '63 as his first appointment, but I just was not interested in that particular post. So I was asked--I think I saw Fortas and he said I should come

Oral history transcript, Roger Hilsman, interview 1 (I), 5/15/1969, by Paige E. Mulhollan (Item)

, of somebody at that level, is there? H: Well, not especially when . . . I mean, you could fire a guy if, like Mr. Fortas, he accepted a bribe or something. M: Yes, yes, right. H: But when it's a disagreement over policy, no. I'll tell you the story as I

Oral history transcript, Lawrence E. (Larry) Levinson, interview 2 (II), 3/18/1969, by Paige E. Mulhollan (Item)

Oral history transcript, Harry C. McPherson, interview 2 (II), 12/19/1968, by T.H. Baker (Item)

Oral history transcript, Edmund Gerald (Pat) Brown, interview 2 (II), 8/19/1970, by Joe B. Frantz (Item)

of the Johnson Administration when the Fortas appointment came up . B: Yes, but that was-- F: Nearly four years later . B: That's right . It was much further along . me whether I wanted to be an Ambassador . I think at one time he asked As a matter

Oral history transcript, Robert Komer, interview 3 (III), 11/15/1971, by Paige E. Mulhollan (Item)

Oral history transcript, Robert E. Jordan III, interview 1 (I), 1/6/1969, by Dorothy Pierce (McSweeny) (Item)

to Negro servicem en in the Forces. Ar~d That connnitt ee was headed by a Washing ton lawyer who is now a judge, Mr. Gesell, and had present Supreme Court Justice Fortas on it, and Whitney Young of the Urban League. I had planned when I ,left the Army

Oral history transcript, E. Ernest Goldstein, interview 3 (III), 12/19/1968, by T.H. Baker (Item)

. But obviously he was getting it from somebody. B: Of course he does talk regularly with outsiders in the sense of Mr. Fortas, for example, I assume. G: And Mr. Clifford before he came in and others. get done. So this is how these things But you don't have

Oral history transcript, Loyd Hackler, interview 2 (II), 6/2/1969, by Stephen Goodell (Item)

Oral history transcript, William Lewis and Margaret Chase Smith, interview 1 (I), 8/20/1975, by Joe B. Frantz (Item)

Oral history transcript, Lawrence E. (Larry) Levinson, interview 5 (V), 11/5/1971, by Joe B. Frantz (Item)

and eventually as you know was appointed to the FDIC. All this also took place while the Fortas thing was brewing around. Strangely enough, within about two days after the moment that I saw Maggie walk by up to the President's office, I got a call from Mike

Oral history transcript, Lawrence F. O'Brien, interview 25 (XXV), 8/25/1987, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

meeting was followed promptly by a meeting on September 18 with similar attendance where we're discussing such matters as the Fortas issue, how it plays politically, and the nuclear treaty. Order and Justice, as it is titled, was considered an area

Oral history transcript, William P. Bundy, interview 2 (II), 5/29/1969, by Paige E. Mulhollan (Item)

Oral history transcript, Jake Jacobsen, interview 1 (I), 5/27/1969, by Dorothy Pierce (McSweeny) (Item)