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Oral history transcript, William J. Jorden, interview 1 (I), 3/22/1969, by Paige E. Mulhollan
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- but techni ca lly attached to the Department of State. M: Did you have any contact with ~tr. Johnson personally prior to the time he was president, in your journalism days? J: Before he was president? M: Before he was vice president even. J: No, I