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- CONG QUESTIONED BY BRIGADIER GENERAL NGUYEN OF NATIONAL POLICE. BUT LOAN WAITED THREE OR FOUR DAYS BEFORE RELAYING THE INFORMATION , VICE PRESIDENT KY CKEE> HIS MENTOR. KY RELAYED THE INFORMATION TO PRESIDENT THIEU , WHO REPORTEDLY , S ANGERED
- to replace Prime Minister Loe, who i s not v ery e ffe ctive . He is leaning toward Tranh Van Huong, the best of the lot. There's uneasiness about the neg otiations. today to soothe them. Thieu is calling in corps commanders Eve rything is in the r ight dir
- saw Phan Van Dong. He saw them within an hour after they returned to Pariso At that point they knew nothing of the history of negotiations. He took down notes of our meeting and sent them to the department. I have some indication of Bo's eagerness
- . and South Vietnamese troops are moving in. Highway 1, which was closed at the Ai - Van Pass must be reopened. A U.S. combat engineer battalion is moving up to open the Pass. . In the Khe Sanh area, the village of Lang Viet, four miles from Khe Sanh
Folder, "[Briefing Papers for Tuesday Luncheon, September 17, 1968]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 3
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- , and ApPropriate U.S. Strategy. (Sec. Clifford; Gen Wheeler) See Tab B for Thieu's appreciation. 3. Gene Black in Cambodia. (Sec. Rusk) Report: Canibodians totally negative. 4. Pueblo. See Tab C. (Sec. Rusk) Situation report. 5. Spanish Base
- tP.r--"eXCURe met C~.bot") Bf\J,1,: Thieu spokP. the oth')r day end seid the CommuniRts would win the election. PRESIDENT: I don't believe tha.t. Does anyone b~lhrve. th:i.t? (Therf:.! wns no agreement from anyone -- McNams:ir~, JJodge, B. Bundy
- put . ~ I: We need to get Ellsworth back in touch with Thieu. It. is a very unhappy situation. One possibility is November 4. They will try to hold up until after our elections. My own preference: try for the 4th, or say arrangements have been
Folder, "[November 20, 1968 Meeting with Tuesday Luncheon Group]," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4
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- recommends it. The President: Let's do it. Secretary Clifford: Welll send out an order today. DIPLOMA TIC SITUATION Secretary Rusk: Congress would murder us with Thieu acting like he's acting now. vVe are short of measures. 2 of 4 M!!Tir~o NOTES c6'ViiOHT
- : It is a pure question of when you all are agreed on statement. Thieu plans to talk at 7 :00 p. m. Washington time. What does Bus say? General Wheeler: midnight. The President: We can is sue orders at midday - - stop bombing by Can we agree on how
Folder, "November 8, 1967 - 9:42 a.m. Vice President and Walt Rostow," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 1
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- . The Vice President has had a chance to go and spend some time and has returned to has returned to meet with the bipa.rt~san leadership and with _ t he National Security Council. The President said that it would be useful to point out that Thieu is ageeable
Folder, "November 8, 1967 - 10:03 a.m. National Security Council," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 1
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- 1966. Those conclusions we re: 1. The U. S. Team is exceptional. Ambassador Bunker, Ambassador Locke, Ambassador Komer and General Westmoreland's military leaders are excellent. 2. Ambassador Bunker enjoys the full confidence of Thieu. Thieu and Bunker
Folder, "June 4, 1968 - 1:45 p.m. President's Tuesday Luncheon," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 3
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- . There were 83.. defectors to ARVN last night. Heavy men and material flow contimi~s into the South. There have been no MIG flights below 20th. We found 100 mm weapons around DMZ. Thieu disagrees on general mobilization in the House. Walt Rostow: General
- of the bombing.'' Meanwhile, we received through the Soviet Embassy in Paris a side message from the Hanoi delegation that they would agree to the participation of the GVN after bombing stopped. On this basis, we went to President Thieu. He said "so long
- with Thieu. By the end of June Thieu and Ky had agreed that this was the best practical way to proceed. In July, Vance spelled out the your-side, our-side formula to Lau. Nothing came of it, however, at that time. In mid-September the President, through
- Rusk: A new peace plan. Thieu won't see Bunker until tomorrow. We should see how Nixon can get out of this as soon as possible. Bill Bundy or I could go down to Key Biscane. I would be opposed to Nixon going to Saigon. emmis sary like William
- CAREFULLY AT ENTIRE TRIP. KY MID THIEU \fISIBL y n1pqzss BY THE ~ESIDENT. THEY FEEL EX'.'B.':R~NT OVE~ TRIP TO HONOLULU .. _ AND YOU WERE RIGHT ABOUT HAVH!G VIC£ ~'.::SIDE~IT COfi!E IN WITH KY AND THIEU. IT WORKED 9EAUTIFULLY -- BOTH r:~ r1EET !NC:S A.ND T
- for the very stability we have developed so painfully for the dollar and international markets. The President: Danang 1 s being shelled. Thieu says he can 1t move further. The DMZ is not being closely watched. I saw Walter Reuther and Clark Kerr tonight
- President Thieu would join in an announcement of the bombing suspension. The President: Asked each per son in turn whether he had any doubts as to the ac t ion proposed. Every person agreed with the proposed action. a. Two weeks ago we had a firm agreement
- ? . NARA, Date (;. -.:;J.1)_!'1 ct=l? , MEETING NOTES COPYRIGHTED Publication Requir" Permiuion of Copyri_ght Hofdw: W. Thomas Johnson Secretary Clifford: I thought final clearance with Thieu was mere formality. I thought we said -- now, here's the time
- are interested in what Secretary Rusk has to aay. Why are you ao worr'ied al:out Saigon. The President: There ii instability between Ky and Thieu. He doesn't like sitting in the back row after all of the command positions he has held. CIA Director Helms
- counts show. It was agreed that the infiltration rate give the most fuzzy figures. retary Nitze said we just do not know what the precise figures are. Sec Mr. Clifford made the following points: (1) There were valuable visits with Ky and Thieu. (2
- . WALT ROSTOW: With the ambiguity in Thieu's statement, Ambassador Bunker should ask Thieu whether we could live through it. THE PRESIDENT: I worry about the morale. SECRETARY CLIFFORD: There is a missing factor here. what happened since last week
- Vietnam war . 2. During conve r sations with both Thieu and Ky, he emphasized the importan ce of the relationship of these two leaders to each other and to the leg islature. 3 . The inaugural speech of Thieu was his own, not ghost written. Thieu i s
- . Clifford and Rusk) Staff work on support for Thieu 1 s proposition: to provide between 100, 000 and 125, 000 additional men in six months. How to nail it down? Will there be conflicts between build-up of Vietnamese and U.S. forces? (See Tab A) 4. Pueblo
- would draw up this order. The President asked how many were in that category - two or three. McNamara said two. ships in there. The other port, Haiphong, always has has Russian The Pr e sident said we should get a spe e ch worked up for Thieu and let
- was talked over with Thieu. By the end of June Thieu and Ky had agreed that this was the best practical way to proceed. In July, Vance spelled out the your-side, our-side formula to Lau. Nothing came of it, however, at that time. In mid-September
- for peace. Last weekend the essential understanding we had been seeking with the North Vietnamese on the critical is sues between us was reached. And today -- jointly with President Thieu of the Republic of Vietnam -- I have ordered that all air, naval
- to divide off Ky. Secretary Rusk: He's taking wait and see attitude. Director Helms: It is dangerous - Ky keeping his generals close to see if Thieu goes too far. The President: Should Ky come here with Thieu? about it. Ask Bunker to think Secretary Rusk
- . operations had been reduced from 800 on his last trip to 30-40 on this trip •. i . On the political front, the Secretary reported: ·- The "greate_st . ~angertt I I is facing us. t A possible split betwee·n Ky and Thieu. 1· i The r.e is "no· real
- announcement between you and Thieu. Secretary Rusk: (Statement, Insert B) 9:00 p. m. Friday, 9:30 Television Statement. Thieu will go on too. The President: When do we stop? Secretary Rusk: Noon our time Friday. George Christian: It will leak
- the President ot know that I have not only given counsel to South Vietnam but I have scolded the North for not making moves toward peace. PRESIDENT I think your statements have been fair and just l want to express the hope that with President Thieu
- Pern1issie" ef (Qpyr~ht HlS"fder: W. Ihomas Jahnsen 11 -e=;;, '-.. - 4 RF and PF fought well except in 4th Corps. Enemy made maximum use of weapons. ARVN weapons. Only 2% did not. They were superior to ·r As for government, Thieu is gaining statue
- and unbending. We will stop bombing under right conditions. PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS: We have tried to come up with formula to let us stop the bombing with no public Vance: They have refused to suggest anything at this point. will not permit the Thieu-Ky
- on that recommendation." ~~~~W~=~~----------------------~· The President asked what is happening in Vietnam. Rusk replied "we are getting·~Thieu and Ky working together now, and that is the primary concern. " The President said "we should get Bunker to get them to put
Folder, "October 14, 1968 - Foreign Policy Advisory Group meeting," Meeting Notes Files, Box 3
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- informed the President that all present had now been briefed on events since Friday. The President might wish to get their reactions and then consider next steps. ,. The President, noting a question raised by Thieu(_?") 1 asked why infiltration
- of the senior U.S. commanders. I also talked with Ambassador Bunker, President Thieu and Vice President Ky. There were a number of factors which surprised me. I certainly learned things I did not know before: The TET attack was very powerful and nationwideo
- asked for the President 1 s . views of comments on the Hill that were critical of the Thieu-Ky attitude toward the South Vietnam elections. The President said some mistakes were being made, but that we might be surprised there were not more. Even in our
- to the South Vietnamese and their determination~ I don't appreciate Thieu saying he needed more A~erican troops. I would think he would be looking for more ways to get more of his own men. But i f six battalions will help him exp~oit this opportunity, I am
- . Thieu is concerned about the NLF being separate entity. This might leak out of Sai.gon. ~ecretary Rusk: It might leak out on basis of the orders issued. General Wheeler: Yes, it might. They will pick up the fact that the planes are flying
- . GENERAL TAY LOR: He should say he hasn 1 t settled the war. is just another step. It WALT ROST OW: Should Bunker inform Thieu alone that you might make a decision tomorrow? THE PRESIDE);T: How does this differ from before when he leaked