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Folder, "[September 15, 1967 - Meeting with AFL-CIO Executive Council]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 2 (Item)

dip in the desertion rate in the South Vietnamese army. This rate will come down even lower, as certain South Vietnamese generals are replaced. The President said every day, each day, we are offering to negotiate with Ho Chi Minh. Our position is clear

Folder, "[NSC Meeting on] Vietnam, 8/5/1965, Volume 3, Tab 36" National Security Council Meetings Files, NSF, Box 2 (Item)

military forces and limit the size of U. S . forces. Political fragility continues in South Vietn am. We hope that the political situation is at last settling down. Based on recent local elections, a national election held now would not go to Ho Chi Minh

Oral history transcript, Rufus Phillips, interview 1 (I), 3/4/1982, by Ted Gittinger (Item)

there's only one road coming south, and there are a whole bunch of bridges, and it'd be damned hard to get any kind of regular army force through there in any significant numbers. The Ho Chi Minh Trail did not exist at this point; there were
Biographical information; Phillip’s work in Vietnam; Ed Lansdale; Phillips psywar experience; trip to the Philippines; Vietnamese pacification program; mosquitoes in the Philippines; Colonel Le Van Kim; the Viet Minh; the Binh Xuyen in Saigon; Kieu

Folder, "[January-March 1968 Meetings with Correspondents]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 3 (Item)

no results. ... , •, .. '.' 3. .The President feels Ho Chi Minh is farther away from negotiations than he ever was; his views seem to be we cannot ,. ; ·• : 'defeat him, he can defeat us, and we will not stay the course. • J ~· : ' 9 • \ ; : 4

Folder, "[September 1967 Meetings with Correspondents]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 3 (Item)

that we are trying to probe in every way to find some way to get Ho Chi Minh to talk even while they continue to fight. The President read President ' Thieu's peace overtures which were made during the campaign and which included bombing pauses

Oral history transcript, David Dellinger, interview 1 (I), 12/10/1982, by Ted Gittinger (Item)

it took the Japanese fascist troops and gave them arms and had them fight to suppress the forces of Ho Chi Minh. But I didn't know any of that until after 1962 or 1963. G: Well, it's a blank spot for very many people. D: Of course now we know
Personal opposition to official policy in Vietnam; National Mobilization Committee to End the War in Vietnam; SANE; MOBE; NCAC; role of television; counterculture; assignation attempt of Dellinger; travels to Vietnam; meeting with Ho Chi Minh

Oral history transcript, Harry Ashmore, interview 1 (I), 1/31/1970, by Joe B. Frantz (Item)

wouldn't receive an American. So we wrote an invitatio'n to Ho Chi Minh to send a delegation to this upcoming convocation to take place some time later, with the understanding we, wer.e also inviting the South Vietnamese and everybody else. The Russians
and peace negotiation talks with Ho Chi Minh

Oral history transcript, Thomas H. (Admiral) Moorer, interview 2 (II), 9/16/1981, by Ted Gittinger (Item)

. You have to bear in mind that Ho Chi Minh and his crowd fought the French before World War II, then the Japanese came in and they fought the Japanese, then the French came back and they fought the French again, and then the Americans came

Folder, "[NSC Meeting on] Vietnam/France/Germany, 5/22/1968, Volume 5, Tab 68," National Security Council Meetings Files, NSF, Box 2 (Item)

Chi Minh' s objectives are to divide us from our allies and to divide us at home. We should be cautious in making statements about what we expect to come out of the Paris talks. UK Fo r eign Minister Stuart may get something during his coming visit

Folder, "July 25, 1967 - 6:10 p.m. Senate Committee Chairmen," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 1 (Item)

it." The President said the bombing would give protection to our ground troops. The President said that Ho Chi Minh hasn't moved one inch from his statement which was published earlier this year. The President continued, "If you want me to get out of Vietnam

Folder, "[NSC Meeting on] Vietnam, 1/29/1966, Volume 3, Tab 38," National Security Council Meetings Files, NSF, Box 2 (Item)

York Times - January 29, 1966 Text of Ho Chi Minh's Letter on Pe2ce Speclal lo Tht );rw Yor~ Tin:ts WA.SHINCTON, Ja11. 28-Fol lotoill!J is tlle text of the letter of PYeMdcnt Bo Chi Millh. of North. Vietnam to .some 1leads of .state and. otllcr

Oral history transcript, Elbridge Durbrow, interview 1 (I), 6/3/1981, by Ted Gittinger (Item)

, necessarily, to capture--they wanted to get medical supplies and guns and ammunition. The Ho Chi Minh Trail had not been reopened again. there was Tay Ninh in January of 1960 or February of 1960. So And then in October-November 1960, they hit a bunch
; infiltration; executive order making the ambassador the principal representative of the U.S. government; acquiring more helicopters; Viet Cong step up effort in 1959-1960; opening up the Ho Chi Minh Trail; Sihanouk; 1960 counterinsurgency plan; JFK taking

Folder, "September 26, 1967 - 5:46 p.m. Educators from Cambridge, Mass. small colleges and Universities," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 1 (Item)

out now," and "try the enclave theory. 11 I have stopped the bombing six times. I did not get any indication of any action on their part. We are in touch with Ho Chi Minh today. The problem is not one of communication. The problem is that Ho wants

Folder, "JCS -- SIGMA I‑66, Game Documentation, 9/66," Agency Files, NSF, Box 33 (Item)

several hours a secret message from Ho Chi Minh, relS¥ed to the White House by President deGaulle, has announced North Vietnam's unilateral decision to halt hostilities. Ho demands reciprocal action by the United States. In Vietnam, American, RVNand other

Folder, "[April-May 1968 Meetings with Correspondents]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 3 (Item)

countries, trade, security matters, or helping build a stable peace. Question: Does the President think there is a serious possibility of productive talks taking place with Ho Chi Minh leading to a peaceful settlement in Vietnam.? Answer: We simply do

Oral history transcript, David G. Nes, interview 1 (I), 11/10/1982, by Ted Gittinger (Item)

particularly of Ho Chi Minh, which they in turn had gotten from the French. So I was able to learn something of the background of the communist movement in Indochina, of the infrastructure which had been built there, and also of the very extensive control

Folder, "[NSC Meeting on] Vice President Reports on his Vietnam Trip, 11/8/1967, Volume 4, Tab 60," National Security Council Meetings Files, NSF, Box 2 (Item)

said was that the Asians believed the ir enemy Wbo is the enemy - - Peking or Ho Chi Minh? The Vice President : The Vietnamese know their enemy is the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese. Wounded South Vietnamese soldiers know who the enemy is . Senat

Oral history transcript, William J. Jorden, interview 2 (II), 3/20/1985, by Ted Gittinger (Item)

frustration. I think a lot of people in the South were still recovering from the aftermath of French colonialism. I think there were a great many southerners who, in an emotional and idealistic way, felt that Ho Chi Minh and his followers and the Viet Minh

Oral history transcript, William C. Westmoreland, interview 2 (II), 7/25/1985, by Charles B. MacDonald (Item)

as a "French" city, a symbol of colonialism; that had a powerful psychological effect. Many people were not emotionally supportive of a govern- ment with a colonial image. And they had no hero to look to. only visible hero was Ho Chi Minh, and the people

Oral history transcript, Lyman Lemnitzer, interview 1 (I), 3/3/1982, by Ted Gittinger (Item)

Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh Lemnitzer -- I -- 24 gummed up the other day in his press conference, that Ho Chi Minh and Diem did not agree in merging the states. It wasn't

Folder, "October 15, 1968 - 1:20 p.m. Tuesday Luncheon," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

be willing to do. We hear from travelers and from self-appointed spokesmen from time to time this and that. On occasions we have attempted to confirm it, and we have negotiated directly with them. I think the last position stated by Mr. Ho Chi Minh is a safe

Folder, "JCS -- SIGMA I‑66, Final Report, 9/66," Agency Files, NSF, Box 33 (Item)

) ~he fellowing material is Secret,not for foreign dissemin based on an inter.agency., ation. SIG?IA I-66 is-. hypothetical, politica.1-mili~ary game conducted in the Pentagon between 13 and 22 September 1966. (Briefer) SIGMAopened with Ho Chi Minh

Oral history transcript, Paul D. Harkins, interview 1 (I), 11/10/1981, by Ted Gittinger (Item)

that bring up any memories? H: No. G: That's what certain people I know called the Ho Chi Minh.Trail. H: Oh. That's a new one. I hadn't beard that before. a good name for it. G: Do you think it's a good name? (Laughter) It's LBJ Presidential

Folder, "[November 2, 1967 - Meeting with Foreign Policy Advisors on Vietnam]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 2 (Item)

Lodge -- Bunker should be well publicized when he returns. Robert Murphy - - We need a hate complex directed at Ho Chi Minh similar to Hitler. General Omar Bradley -- Our troubles can be blamed on the communications media. We need patriotic slogans

Oral history transcript, Douglas Pike, interview 1 (I), 6/4/1981, by Ted Gittinger (Item)

the best organized and can most successfully disorganize the other side and stay organized itself. Diem simply didn't have the organizational skills that were necessary to win. He was up against Ho Chi Minh, an organizational genius in terms of forming

Oral history transcript, Maxwell D. Taylor, interview 1b (I), 2/10/1969, by Dorothy Pierce (McSweeny) (Item)

of men and supplies from North Vietnam to South Vietnam. And then finally, to remind Ho Chi Minh and his advisers in Hanoi that they were no longer sitting in a sanctuary directing a war without paying a price for it. And that little by little

Folder, "[August 18, 1967 - 8:35 p.m. Meeting with Foreign Policy Advisors on Vietnam]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 1 (Item)

Wheeler said it is not necessary to approve this target tonight. - 2 The President said he should go ahead and approve it. "If we send a McNamara to talk to Ho Chi Minh, we don't want to approve it after he gets there." Wheeler said the weather

Oral history transcript, David Halberstam, interview 1 (I), 11/1/1982, by Ted Gittinger (Item)

to say, So every once in a while you'd have a glimmer of the differences between you. G: That's interesting, especially since I understand Ho Chi Minh made his living doing that kind of thing. H: I wouldn't be surprised. G: Tell me about John

Oral history transcript, Benjamin Spock, interview 1 (I), 10/23/1982, by Ted Gittinger (Item)

her morality but I obviously get indignant the same way. And to hear, for instance, that at the end of World War II the French government first promised Ho Chi Minh that they would stay out and allow the country to be free, and then they secretly

Folder, "JCS -- SIGMA I‑66, Fact Book, 9/66," Agency Files, NSF, Box 33 (Item)

that that they must 'come to the assistance" of the North E-6 , S- - NOFORN NO YES example of this new means or disguised aggression. Ho Chi Minh has had a long associ ation with the communist revo~utionaries in China, . particularly with Mao. He has been

Oral history transcript, Frank McCulloch, interview 1 (I), 5/13/1980, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

, but in terms of just the attitude of the Saigon population in general. M: Right. The thing that struck me over and over again then seems to be reflected in stories that are coming out of there now, from Ho Chi Minh City, by AFP or by the occasional American

Oral history transcript, Samuel T. Williams, interview 2 (II), 3/16/1981, by Ted Gittinger (Item)

. W: They were the top-ranking, yes. For instance, Big [Duong Van] Minh who later became the instigator of the coup d'état--the man who had Diem murdered--he'd been a first lieutenant in the French army, colonial army. Don, who was next to Minh-G

Oral history transcript, Samuel T. Williams, interview 1 (I), 3/2/1981, by Ted Gittinger (Item)

into South Vietnam to escape the to escape the communist government of North Vietnam. Now, you seldom hear or read about that, but right after the Geneva accords, Ho Chi Minh said he'd let those people go south that wanted to go south. Well, they didn't

Oral history transcript, William DePuy, interview 1 (I), 10/28/1985, by Ted Gittinger (Item)

, but they weren't very good. They weren't good, dedicated communist fighters. But then later, of course, the larger issue was not the Pathet Lao but was to protect the Ho Chi Minh Trail. So they kept their troops in there, and they did protect the Ho Chi Minh Trail

Oral history transcript, Keyes Beech, interview 1 (I), 3/22/1983, by Ted Gittinger (Item)

was the South Vietnamese chargé, I think that's what they called and at that time, Khoi really belonged on . hadn't The real it at the time, in Bangkok, really made up his mind which side he heroes--Ho Chi Minh and [Vo Nguyen] Giap, you know

Oral history transcript, Phillip B. Davidson, interview 1 (I), 3/30/1982, by Ted Gittinger (Item)

, of course, in the triple canopy [jungle], forget it. can't penetrate that canopy. You Aerial photographs, which had been a very excellent source in World War II, and a very usable source in Korea, were virtually useless, except out in Laos in the Ho Chi

Folder, "[July 27, 1965 National Security Council Meeting; Joint Leadership Meeting]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 1 (Item)

and teat thls v:as why the ARV.N had been so success.fa! until recently. 'The President remarked that we all know that it is a bad situation and we wish we were ten years back or even ten months back. Senator Long said that Ho Chi Minh tal!\:s of a twenty

Oral history transcript, Phillip B. Davidson, interview 2 (II), 6/30/1982, by Ted Gittinger (Item)

would have been near the end of November 1967, we had noticed some unusual activity in North Vietnam. I don't think it had any relationship to the trail, that is, the Ho Chi Minh Trail through Laos. We went to see General Westmoreland and told him

Oral history transcript, Stanley Karnow, interview 1 (I), 4/30/1984, by Ted Gittinger (Item)

at the moment in Manila. I think he was probably the last American journalist to interview Ho Chi Minh, in 1946. And he was in and out of there; he based in Hong Kong. And also in and out about that time, but I'm not sure of the dates, was Tillman Durdin

Folder, "October 23, 1967 - 5:36 p.m. Democratic Leadership," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 1 (Item)

to the North Vietnamese and sought their views. They did not respond to our suggestions and the exchange culminated in my February letter to Ho-Chi-Minh and his flatly negative response, which Hanoi chose to publish. Since that time, despite additional efforts

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