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Folder, "June 22, 1968 - 8:45 a.m. Meeting with Foreign Policy Advisors," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 3 (Item)

are interested in what Secretary Rusk has to aay. Why are you ao worr'ied al:out Saigon. The President: There ii instability between Ky and Thieu. He doesn't like sitting in the back row after all of the command positions he has held. CIA Director Helms

Folder, "October 5, 1967 - 6:55 p.m. McNamara, Rusk, Rostow," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 1 (Item)

in Vietnam this year. We should talk about Honolulu when we asked them to draft a constitution; we should talk about Manila, when we asked them to elect a President; we should talk about Guam, when Ky and Thieu gave us their constitution; we should talk about

Folder, "May 14, 1968 - 1:10 p.m. Tuesday lunch with Foreign Policy Advisors," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 3 (Item)

. The President: Are you concerned about Thieu's problem in forming a new cabinet. Secretary Rusk: Yes, but Ky will go along if there are no changes in Generals. Walt Rostow: The "deal" is that Ky will be main negotiator in "your side, our side" situation. CIA

Folder, "October 29, 1968 - 1 p.m. Tuesday luncheon with Foreign Policy Advisors," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

Vietnam from being overrun. We have invested 29, 000 dead and $75 billion. We must be careful not to flush this down the drain. But we do have the right to expect cooperation from South Vietnam. Thieu and Ky agreed to this. Bunker said they needed more

Folder, "October 29, 1968 - 2:30 a.m. Meeting with the President's Foreign Policy Advisors," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

have passed it. They are at How much trouble is the President having? General Abrams: He is stronger. to him. The Prime Minister is a great boost The President: Is Ky a threat, a dangerous threat? General Abrams: He's not helpful. Thieu

Folder, "May 8, 1968 - 6 p.m. President's meeting with the negotiating team," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 3 (Item)

3. The matter of reconnaissance. South and have their intelligence. We must have this. They are in the 4. Important political issues. Go ahead and get their views on more formal talks and views on terms for settlement. Thieu and Ky suggested "our

Folder, "August 10, 1968 - 12:25 p.m. President's briefing of Former Vice President Nixon and Gov. Agnew," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 3 (Item)

and unbending. We will stop bombing under right conditions. PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS: We have tried to come up with formula to let us stop the bombing with no public Vance: They have refused to suggest anything at this point. will not permit the Thieu-Ky

Folder, "October 29, 1968 - 6:28 p.m. Foreign Policy Meeting," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

about the NLF. Questions of procedure must be taken up. Saigon cannot be ready for November 2 because Thieu and Ky cannot be ready. They do not want to participate in what the President is trying to do. 2. The President has been urged to stop

Folder, "September 26, 1967 - 1:15 p.m. Weekly luncheon - McNamara, Katzenbach, Helms, Rostow, Christian," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 1 (Item)

overseeing group thought the Thieu-Ky election was a fraud. The President asked Director Helms to check this and if it is not true, get the information to the Senator. Secretary Katzenbach: Reported on tre Rusk-Gromyko talks which were underway in New York

Folder, "October 3, 1967 - 6:10 p.m. Rusk, McNamara, Rostow, Helms, Christian Robin Olds and Col. Cross," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 1 (Item)

of the Politburo. We need to stir Thieu and Ky up to probe around more with the NLFo Bunker should ask Thieu and Ky to get something going. This one is purely our thing" We need to get them going on somethingo Mr. Ro stow: It would be excellent for Thieu to say

Folder, "November 21, 1967 - 8:30 a.m. VP, Rusk, McNamara, Bunker, Komer, Wheeler, Westmoreland, Helms, Rostow," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 1 (Item)

that President Thieu and Vice President Ky have almost identical priorities which is encouraging. The President asked if President Thieu States. planned to come to the United Ambassador Bunker said yes at a later date when he settles down the government a bit

Folder, "October 15, 1968 - 1:20 p.m. Tuesday Luncheon," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

Times story by Rick Smith and Marvin Kalb at 8:00 a. m. today may be put together. The President: Tell Bunker to get Thieu moving on telling his people now. Thieu must tell Ky, Prime Minister, and Defense Minister and draft a statement. The President

Folder, "April 6, 1968 - 1:30 p.m. President's meeting with Gen. William Westmoreland - Washington, D.C.," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 3 (Item)

and self-confidence. l There is a conflict between Thieu and Ky but I am not worried about it. I think they both should stay. There is friction between Thieu and Vien because of quarrel between two wives. Vien will resign when I leave {Westmoreland

Folder, "December 3, 1968 1:29-2:54 p.m. Tuesday Luncheon," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

concern is the tactics of the South Vietnamese Government. Last word is that Ky won't get there until the 9th. You stopped bombing 32 days ago. I fear we will have this package fall apart and get back to heavy fighting. Saigon appears to be stalling until

Folder, "[November 7, 1968 Foreign Policy Meeting - Family Dining Room]," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

ACCEPTED BY THE GVN IN THE COURSE OF THESE CONSULTA TIONS AS THE ONLY VAY, PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, THAT WE COULD HOPE TO HOLD TALKS VITH THE OTHER SIDE. I THINK VICE PRESIDENT KY SAID ONCE THAT AS A NATTER OF PRINCIPLE WE OUGHT NOT TALK WITH ·THElltt- IUT

Folder, "November 11, 1968 - 3 p.m. President and President-elect Nixon," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

was talked over with Thieu. By the end of June Thieu and Ky had agreed that this was the best practical way to proceed. In July, Vance spelled out the your-side, our-side formula to Lau. Nothing came of it, however, at that time. In mid-September