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- with school integration at that point, and
the application of Title VI and all of the rest.
And I think he wanted to
get this job done; we did it for him in the appointed time.
M:
Did he see you personally less than other Presidents, he had less
personal
- ,,"'ith Hr. Truman on this at all, to try to get him to--?
VI:
No.
F:
What about
W:
Well, we had a general conversation with him, but I don't think Pauley had
He was the only serious contender to Kennedy.
E~~in
Pauley as the California leader
- on to really carry
influence.
S:
Oh yes, yes.
Of course, when he became president he was in a
different role vis-à-vis the Congress.
But it became very clear
that his experiencein the Congress played a major part in his
whole approach to the job of being
- to assure
your destructive capability vis-à-vis the opponent if he strikes you first.
We have attempted to support the Administration's policy decisions,
once they have been made, on the size and characteristics and deployment
of ABM's as well as offensive
- and a possible future
president.
F:
We're moving ahead.
H:
Yes.
F:
But did he ever express himself on Richard Nixon vis-à-vis Johnson?
H:
You mean as being elected president?
F:
Yes.
H:
No, not that I can recall.
If he did, it was, "If Dick
