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  • to get the votes, they also would tell him. There was no double talk. There was no rather crude partisan politics between the three men. I think I could also say in the associations that I had both with the Speaker and Mr. Johnson it was exactly
  • pretty much today. But even when he was Vice President, of course, we weren't pressing him on legislative matters. We did have a number of contacts with him. Mu: Did Mr. Kennedy use him for anything that involved organized labor--? Me: Not directly