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- Holleman was a labor official at the time--
S:
He was president of the AFofL-CIO, I believe; and Fred Schmidt was
another one of the labor leaders; and of course Creekmore Fath was one
of those people, too, that were somewhat suspicious of this new--
B
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Yes, very curious,yes.
That was Johnson at his political best or worst,
depending on how you look at it.
I mean, he was determined to win.
B:
Did you ever figure out how he got the CIO support?
M:
Well, he had always been considered more