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Oral history transcript, W. Ervin James, interview 1 (I), 2/17/1978, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • he won out. I don't need to go into details of that, but Cliff Durr was the one that pulled him out. James Lawrence Fly was determined; it was something he had put his staff on, Pete Shuebruk and Nate [Nathan H.J David, two brilliant lawyers