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  • : That's right. Sam Houston [Johnson] has a pretty full report on that in his book--of that meeting. I was not at the meeting. G: But can you collaborate what he said? M: Yes, I think that's the way it happened all right. I did see Shivers at some
  • . I think Duncan was a fair At least I thought he was. at the time. Maybe if I went back and read his stuff I'd decide that he wasn't. G: With Everett Collier, who I guess covered it for the [Houston] Chronicle, you had a case where perhaps