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Oral history transcript, James R. Jones, interview 1 (I), 11/26/1968, by Dorothy Pierce McSweeny
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- part of the White House rolls. I'll tell one story in relation to coming here. I had done some work in the campaign of 1964 as an advance man first for President Johnson in New York City in June of 1964, which was the first time I had done any advance
- but not a whole lot of outspokenness; whereas Ramsey and Dean Rusk were very steadfast, quiet, immobile to a certain extent, and got away with it. F: Did the President, in a sense, cool off on Clark Clifford as a result of the new postures? J: I think very
Oral history transcript, James R. Jones, interview 2 (II), 6/28/1969, by Dorothy Pierce (McSweeny)
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- probably confided to reporters that he did this in 1965-1966, and told them this, thinking that that would be a wellreceived piece of news. Instead they turned it on him and kind of derided him for it. M: Another area that was some of your responsibility