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- s tate d that he had asked General Abrams to join the meeting
so that he and General Wheeler could report on the situat ion in Vietnam
before the Council turned to the problem of the Non- Proliferatio n Treaty.
He asked G e neral Wheeler to summar
- facilities .
Se cretary Rusk:
from the USSR.
The President:
Llewellyn Thompson does not believe there is a danger
Who should we talk to ?
Secretary Rusk: The chiefs of governments with troops in Vietnam,
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Mr. Wilson and Mr. Pearson
- Vietnam
- and launched int o a
discussion of whether or not we should press for Security Council action
on Vietnam, but then returned to explain the devel opment s on the
Middle Eas t in New York since July. He concluded by indicating that
the non-permanent
- consisting of two U . S . destroyers , the Maddox and the C. Turner Joy,
approximately 6 5 miles off North Vietnam in the Gulf 'of Tonkin . Presently we
believe 9 or 10 torpedoes were fired at the Patrol. Two of the PT boats were
r eportedly sunk and three
- belief that they are putting into their
military effort about twice as much in real resources as we ar e . As we see
Vietnam coming to a close, it is doubl y important for us to discuss military
budgets with th e R ussians .
Secretary McNamara
- , will be undertaken. They fall within
the authority given by the President following Secretary McNamara's
last trip to Vietnam.
Certain of the operations which were opposed
by Ambassador Unger for political reasons will not be undertaken
for the time being.
Secretary
- is unable to do anything about the war in Vietnam. Secretary
Rusk summarized the p r o s and cons of Unit ed Nations action, taking t he s a me
position he has in the past. Ambassador Goldberg reviewed the past history of
the proposal to involve the U. N
- there are disturbing developments. Soviet and
Communist Chinese advisers have arrived. The union of these two states has
lost its momentum .
7. In South Vietnam, Viet Cong activity has not s_tepped up recently . This may
come later . General Kiem, the hardliners
- to uncle rtake troop reductions on a reciprocal
basis with the Russians . The F r ench will not join but that will not
matter .
We do not expect the Russians t o r espond now .
Vietnam i s one
reas on; their concern over Eastern Europe is another
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many major world problems involving the USSR and the U. S. such as the Middle
East, strategi c missile control, and Vietnam.
We must not 1nislead the Soviet Union, the Am e rican p e opl e , or our allies .
The Soviet Union is trying to carry
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BSC Meetings, VoL 3 Tab 26 , 2/1/65, Vietnam, Jordan Arms
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- Folder, "[NSC Meeting on] Vietnam; Jordan Arms, 2/1/1965, Volume 3, Tab 26," National Security Council Meetings Files, NSF, Box 1
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FOR THE PRESIDENT ONLY
SUMMARY NOTES FOR SSlstlNSC MEETING
September 7, 1968, 12:00 noon
Conte/Long and Symington Amendments--Vietnam
In the absence of the President, Secretary Rusk asked Under Secretary
Katzenbach
- China are even greater than those which have
been made public. Even the person of Khrushchev is now att acked by
1he Chinese Communists.
d, South Vietnam - -Although there is little new information, the
prospects of Khanh maintaining his position
- times that in the U. S., because of chronic ~al
nourishrr.ent . In Libya, a mother must have five children to have a good
chance t~at one will l ive to 15 yea~ s . In Vietnam, 4o percent of the
ch ildren die of disease by the age of four .
2. After
