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Folder, "October 3, 1967 - 6:10 p.m. Rusk, McNamara, Rostow, Helms, Christian Robin Olds and Col. Cross," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 1 (Item)

of the Politburo. We need to stir Thieu and Ky up to probe around more with the NLFo Bunker should ask Thieu and Ky to get something going. This one is purely our thing" We need to get them going on somethingo Mr. Ro stow: It would be excellent for Thieu to say

Folder, "November 21, 1967 - 8:30 a.m. VP, Rusk, McNamara, Bunker, Komer, Wheeler, Westmoreland, Helms, Rostow," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 1 (Item)

are serious. The key is the establishment of confidence with Thieu about this type of dialogue. The President said there are four areas for immediate attention. The first is the expediting of additional troops to Vietnam. The second is the equipping

Folder, "April 7, 1968 - 3:05 p.m. President's meeting with Gen. William Westmoreland - Cabinet Room," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 3 (Item)

conditions of a total bombing cessation. General Westmoreland: We need a better company level- battalion level radio. Want recommendations on this. On general offensive operations, I have talked to Thieu and Vien to get South Vietnamese moving on all

Folder, "September 12, 1968 - 1:39 p.m. Tuesday luncheon with Foreign Policy Advisors," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

on the call to the Vice President? Secretary Clifford: He called me about his statement on troop withdrawal. I told him I had not predicted any U. S. tr oops would come home next year. Thieu has. Also, he asked if it were true a Marine unit was coming home now

Folder, "October 30, 1968 - 4:00 p.m. President's meeting with Foreign Policy Advisors," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

Thieu making speech? The President: Make it the day after tomorrow if possible. Secretary Rusk: What about the timing? The President: Announce it at 7 p. m. tomorrow. Clark Clifford and Dean Rusk background, perhaps even appear on television

Folder, "November 26, 1968 1:45-2:25 p.m. Foreign Policy Meeting," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

interesting that issue was never raised of bombing during the talks there except hitting the bridges over the Yalu River. Walt Rostow: The report says they want peace, but they won't come on their knees to Thieu. .' ... .. . ' . •' - 4 Secretary

Folder, "October 14, 1968 - 1:40 p.m. Foreign Policy Advisory Group meeting," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

said if I Thieu concurred in instructions given Harriman and Vance. There is a later cable. He is ready to go along to try to see if they are serious about stopping the war. A message was sent to Bunker to examine loop-holes and.contingencies

Folder, "October 14, 1968 - President's Meeting with Joint Chiefs on Vietnam," Meeting Notes Files, Box 3 (Item)

his Government on the new North Vietnamese position by Monday {Text of cable reporting this exchange is at TAB E). 10. Ambassador Bunker and General Abrams called on President Thieu Sunday evening to go over developments of the last four days

Folder, "March 26, 1968 - 1:15 p.m. Foreign Policy Advisors Luncheon - regulars plus added group - Vietnam," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 2 (Item)

in urban areas to protect against a second wave of attacks. I told President Thieu that the South Vietnam forces had to go on the offensive. Thieu said South Vietnam could not take another Tet offensive. General Westmoreland has turned this around. sive

Folder, "March 19, 1968 - 1:01 p.m. Tuesday lunch with Foreign Advisors," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 2 (Item)

. Secretary Rusk: We should have an executive committee to notify our allies: Gorton, Thieu, Pak~ and the Prime Minister of Thailand. I still am concerned about the details one puts out publicly. to give exact figures. · I don't want .So, ooo Secretary

Folder, "[March 20, 1968 - 5:08 p.m. VP, Rusk, Clifford, Fortas, Bundy, Bundy, Jorden, Rostow, Christian, McPherson, Goldberg]," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 2 (Item)

be Critics) of our pos~~ition believe we're inte~t on creating a constitutional and democratic gover!".ment by pursuing last VC until he is dead. They see capacity of VC to bit the cities. I do not think we can move Thieu to a Greek solution

Folder, "[December 21, 1967 - Meeting with Australian Cabinet]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 2 (Item)

by Hanoi. Thieu, however, statetl that he would talk informally with members of the NLF. We ourselves feel that the best chance for peace ls one worked out inside South VietIJ:Bn by the South Vietnamese. The other points the President made in his TV

Folder, "May 6, 1968 - 1:20 p.m. Meeting with Foreign Policy Advisors," Meeting Notes Files, Box 3 (Item)

. The President: Shouldn't Bunker be getting Thieu to go ahead on talking with the NLF? Secretary Katzenbach: I don• t think Hanoi wants to talk about a political settlement in the South. They• 11 say we should talk to NLF about that. - 4 Secretary

Folder, "November 15, 1967 - 2:16 p.m. Bunker, Rusk, McNamara, Wheeler, Helms, Rostow, Christian," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 1 (Item)

in the government - - most improved. There has been a change in the political situation for the better. There now are local people getting involved in local government at the village level. We are urging Ky and Thieu to put land control in the hands of the local

Folder, "May 8, 1968 - 6 p.m. President's meeting with the negotiating team," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 3 (Item)

3. The matter of reconnaissance. South and have their intelligence. We must have this. They are in the 4. Important political issues. Go ahead and get their views on more formal talks and views on terms for settlement. Thieu and Ky suggested "our

Folder, "[January 11, 1966 - 1:05 p.m. Meeting with Foreign Policy Advisors on David Bell's Return]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 1 (Item)

about thinness and weakness in VN government. Only 2 or 3 strong men in government. General Thieu and two others. When you talk as I did for long hours with these men, you find they are not broad gauged. Worley is troubled by this. But people

Folder, "April 30, 1968 - 1:25 p.m. Tuesday luncheon with Foreign Policy Advisors," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 3 (Item)

(8-85) April 30, 1968 Sec. Rusk wants to add: 1. Bunker's present plans: hoping to go to Katmandu May 9-140 2. Further modifications and enlargement of Barrell Roll area in Laos. 30 Mr. Rostow's idea: Possible Thieu initiative with NLF

Folder, "[September 6, 1967 - 11:09 a.m. Meeting with Vietnam Election Observers]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 2 (Item)

. "They came in freely and they voted freely." He said the problem now is one of unification and he did not know if Thieu and Ky are up to it. They are schooled in the authoritarian tradition, Muskie said. James Antell, National Jaycee President, said

Folder, "May 14, 1968 - 1:10 p.m. Tuesday lunch with Foreign Policy Advisors," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 3 (Item)

. The President: Are you concerned about Thieu's problem in forming a new cabinet. Secretary Rusk: Yes, but Ky will go along if there are no changes in Generals. Walt Rostow: The "deal" is that Ky will be main negotiator in "your side, our side" situation. CIA

Folder, "November 26, 1968 10:21-11:11 Foreign Policy Meeting," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

. On October agreed language with Thieu to announce this, but when came to the hurdle he would not jump. There will be a good deal of confusion. They are shotting at our reconnaissance planes and there have been violations of the DMZ. Briefed on NA TO. Briefed

Folder, "September 17, 1968 - Tuesday lunch with Foreign Policy Advisors ," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

B for Thieu 1 s appreciation. 3. ·~ Gene Black in Cambodia. (Sec. Rusk} See Tab C. ··:·":' Report: Cambodians totally negative • . · , : ..:. -' ' ~ . · "~· 4. . Pueblo. (Sec. Rusk

Folder, "October 15, 1968 - 1:20 p.m. Tuesday Luncheon," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

Times story by Rick Smith and Marvin Kalb at 8:00 a. m. today may be put together. The President: Tell Bunker to get Thieu moving on telling his people now. Thieu must tell Ky, Prime Minister, and Defense Minister and draft a statement. The President

Folder, "[November 2, 1967 - Meeting with Foreign Policy Advisors on Vietnam]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 2 (Item)

~amely that ..the American-people-wilrr~:ra.e:l-to-n:i:mring-fronrtho·s-e-i1'RUvtdmitB;1' who- live·ih Southeast Asia who can give a-better -color· of the·~ondition~:-the-~ For example1--Presideht 'Thieu ·should. visit· the -United States

Folder, "January 30, 1968 - 1 p.m. Pueblo 11 - Foreign Affairs Luncheon Rusk, McNamara, Clifford, Helms, etc.," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 2 (Item)

report the message was not very clear . . Ambassador Bunker wants it authenticated. Their people think we should release four additional prisoners. I think we should leave the details of this with Ambassador Bunker to work out with Thieu. The President

Folder, "[July 21, 1965 Meetings with Foreign Policy Advisors on Vietnam]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 1 (Item)

impression of General Ky, and his belief that the present GVN would be removed by the end of the year. General Wheeler stated that he had a good impression of General Thieu. He felt that the stability of the present government would depend on our support

Folder, "[September 1967 Meetings with Correspondents]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 3 (Item)

given Bunker the toughest diplomatic assignemtnso President said Bunker moved this thing (elections) faster than we expectedo 11 We went to Honolulu and were surprised at their (Ky and Thieu} attitude. I thought of them as Hitler, heel clicking, power

Folder, "March 4, 1968 - 5:33 p.m. Meeting with Senior Foreign Policy Advisors," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 2 (Item)

into the Tet offensive, Thieu's state:rrent wasn't what more they could do but that "it is time for more U.S. troops." There is no easy answer to this. If we continue with our present policy of adding more troops and increasing our commitment, this policy may

Folder, "[July 1967 - May 1968 Meetings with Correspondents]," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 1 (Item)

the pressure on; with a little more pressure, I think that will do it. The boys who are fighting for them are hurting; perhaps the leaders in Hanoi aren't as bad as their troops are. President: There's now a campaign on in Vietnam to attack Thieu and Ky

Folder, "February 9, 1968 - 11:02 a.m. Joint Chiefs of Staff," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 2 (Item)

, call up 18 year olds and give the American people the impression that they are doing as much as we. Secretary McNamara: When I was in Vietnam I talked with Thieu and Ky. They told me then they intended to call up 18 and 19 year olds. The President

Folder, "October 14, 1968 Meeting with Foreign Policy Advisory Group," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

are there. We m1!Jlst look at the contingencies and how we deal with them - - the marginal infractions and rocket attacks. Secretary Rusk: We made it clear to the Russians and to Hanoi. General Taylor: Abrams and Thieu said they may propose a ceasefire

Folder, "[November 4, 1967 - 2:20 p.m. Meeting with Foreign Policy Advisors]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 2 (Item)

could talk to Thieu arid get the corruption cleaned up. The President also said we are mishandling our information from Vietnam. He said Sigard Larmon has just come back from Vietnam and he is violently upset with the way the press is handling

Folder, "[October 1967 Meetings with Correspondents]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 3 (Item)

: Viet Cong? After the inauguration, will Thieu try to entice the The President: I think very shortly after the inauguration you will get to see social reforms, military reforms and a lot of steps toward improving the country. Ge-orge Christian

Folder, "February 11, 1968 - 4:30 p.m. Senior Foreign Policy Advisors - Rusk, McNamara, Wheeler, Clifford, Taylor," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 2 (Item)

politicai groups. 3. In talking with Thieu and Ky, you should make dear that we "'.vish to see it through at their side. If we are to be permitted to do so by American public opinion, they must 1novc fa~t to b_ring their forces back /.'-v'1 to strength

Folder, "March 11, 1968 - 6:57 p.m. Meeting with Foreign Policy Advisors on additional troops for Vietnam," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 2 (Item)

tional 75,000 recruits. President Thieu has mentioned possible increases ranging from 65,000 to 125,000. General Westmoreland estimates that a total RVNAF strength of 751 ,739 can be reached by December 31 of this year. This would mean 66,000 recruits

Folder, "[Briefing Papers for National Security Council Meeting, August 9, 1967]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 1 (Item)

requirements = total consumption minus local production. - 2 6. At this point my preference for strategy follows: a. Make clear to Thieu and Ky that we wish maximum progress before the election but that we ,expect the new GVN to take early

Folder, "[January 31, 1968 - Meeting with Congressional Leaders]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 2 (Item)

Folder, "January 31, 1968 - 8:40 a.m. Pueblo 13 - Breakfast with Congressional Leaders & Advisors," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 2 (Item)