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Folder, "October 15, 1968 - 1:20 p.m. Tuesday Luncheon," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

Times story by Rick Smith and Marvin Kalb at 8:00 a. m. today may be put together. The President: Tell Bunker to get Thieu moving on telling his people now. Thieu must tell Ky, Prime Minister, and Defense Minister and draft a statement. The President

Folder, "[November 2, 1967 - Meeting with Foreign Policy Advisors on Vietnam]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 2 (Item)

is an intelligent and a reasonable fellow, and more balanced than Ky. He could go through the background of the conflict, the importance of the conflict, and I think this would be very helpful. Colonel Robin Olds, who is our only· air ace, could be assigned to speak

Folder, "February 12, 1968 - 1:45 p.m. Senior Foreign Policy Advisors meeting," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 2 (Item)

, but it is better to have them there when they are needed than to need them there and not have them. General Wheeler: I will call now and get my men drafting the order. (General Wheeler left the room.) The President: What is the status of Buttercup? I see where Ky

Folder, "April 6, 1968 - 1:30 p.m. President's meeting with Gen. William Westmoreland - Washington, D.C.," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 3 (Item)

and self-confidence. l There is a conflict between Thieu and Ky but I am not worried about it. I think they both should stay. There is friction between Thieu and Vien because of quarrel between two wives. Vien will resign when I leave {Westmoreland

Folder, "December 3, 1968 1:29-2:54 p.m. Tuesday Luncheon," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

concern is the tactics of the South Vietnamese Government. Last word is that Ky won't get there until the 9th. You stopped bombing 32 days ago. I fear we will have this package fall apart and get back to heavy fighting. Saigon appears to be stalling until

Folder, "[July 21, 1965 Meetings with Foreign Policy Advisors on Vietnam]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 1 (Item)

impression of General Ky, and his belief that the present GVN would be removed by the end of the year. General Wheeler stated that he had a good impression of General Thieu. He felt that the stability of the present government would depend on our support

Folder, "[February-April 1967 Meetings with Correspondents]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 3 (Item)

. Then the tourists started coming into North Vietnam. It took us 37 days to get back in business between the tourists, after nothing came of the pause. More Sa\ \C -3 "Now we have got some new jags this year - - neutralize the area, remove the Ky dictatorship

Folder, "[September 1967 Meetings with Correspondents]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 3 (Item)

not be anticipated. lb traced development of the democratic process in Vietnam, said when Geno Ky took second-place on the Thieu 1

Folder, "[November 7, 1968 Foreign Policy Meeting - Family Dining Room]," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

ACCEPTED BY THE GVN IN THE COURSE OF THESE CONSULTA TIONS AS THE ONLY VAY, PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, THAT WE COULD HOPE TO HOLD TALKS VITH THE OTHER SIDE. I THINK VICE PRESIDENT KY SAID ONCE THAT AS A NATTER OF PRINCIPLE WE OUGHT NOT TALK WITH ·THElltt- IUT

Folder, "[July 21-27, 1965 Meetings on Vietnam] [ADDED TO FILE, 6/28/85]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 1 (Item)

'~ th! ti llrw cuu~"t da Ltd s. \'le u1115t sh11w that arr: not . in with Ky•s ohJt:Ct1ve to invade H\JIL \'I~ ~re ·h uildins .s"~h a- fore~ that HVN mi~ht" thinK that is what we ace tr~ing - &o do. Rerne.1nbe{'" th Is ••or. - ta NV1~ 11 mov~errt l

Folder, "March 26, 1968 - 1:15 p.m. Foreign Policy Advisors Luncheon - regulars plus added group - Vietnam," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 2 (Item)

~ght 5 p Holder· w Thomes-Johnson The President: Will you get 135, 000? General Abrams: Yes. The President: Are they drafting 18 year olds? General Abrams: -Yes. Thieu and Ky are determined to do it. The President: What ·percent of the ARYN

Folder, "[Briefing Papers for National Security Council Meeting, August 9, 1967]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 1 (Item)

requirements = total consumption minus local production. - 2 6. At this point my preference for strategy follows: a. Make clear to Thieu and Ky that we wish maximum progress before the election but that we ,expect the new GVN to take early

Folder, "February 9, 1968 - 11:02 a.m. Joint Chiefs of Staff," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 2 (Item)

, call up 18 year olds and give the American people the impression that they are doing as much as we. Secretary McNamara: When I was in Vietnam I talked with Thieu and Ky. They told me then they intended to call up 18 and 19 year olds. The President

Folder, "November 11, 1968 - 3 p.m. President and President-elect Nixon," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

was talked over with Thieu. By the end of June Thieu and Ky had agreed that this was the best practical way to proceed. In July, Vance spelled out the your-side, our-side formula to Lau. Nothing came of it, however, at that time. In mid-September

Folder, "February 11, 1968 - 4:30 p.m. Senior Foreign Policy Advisors - Rusk, McNamara, Wheeler, Clifford, Taylor," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 2 (Item)

politicai groups. 3. In talking with Thieu and Ky, you should make dear that we "'.vish to see it through at their side. If we are to be permitted to do so by American public opinion, they must 1novc fa~t to b_ring their forces back /.'-v'1 to strength

Folder, "March 4, 1968 - 5:33 p.m. Meeting with Senior Foreign Policy Advisors," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 2 (Item)

Clifford, a highly forceful approach to the GVN (Thieu and Ky) to get certain key commitments for impro~ement, tied to our own increased effort and to increased US support for the ARVN. De tails are in Tab B. 3. Early approval of a Reserve call-up

Folder, "October 14, 1968 - President's Meeting with Joint Chiefs on Vietnam," Meeting Notes Files, Box 3 (Item)

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