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Stop at 11: 00 a. m. - announced.
Let's stop it so I can announce at 7 today or at 7 tomorrow.
General Wheeler: We can stop it at 0800 Saigon time or 7: 00 p. m.
tomorrow. There is nothing to do.
Clark Clifford:
Do we have information about
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Westmoreland over the phone and received a number of cables from him.
Westmoreland reported the following:
- - The enemy apparently will start new attacks on the 10th.
St.'1.\f\~E SET
That is tonight our time. This is based on communications intelligence
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and military risks to bombing halt. We have been
exploring bombing limitations in North, leaving open
bombing above the DMZ, It also would look bad to
segments here at home to have bombing halt at same
time as calling up reserves,
We are being divided
- on the
first day -- mortar fire. Nothing since that time.
There were a couple of small attacks against small population centers in
the last 24-hours.
The President: I figured they would do this to save a little face.
General Wheeler: The North
- and Cabot Lodge were also included in it. We should get
the benefit of their substantive opinion. Then we could say you were
meeting again with the same group.
Drew Pearson wrote around that time about the group.
The President then asked Tom Johnson to get
- assign
ment as Tactical Commander of Cadets at the USAF Academy in
Colorado Springs.
Colonel Olds said he was honored by the assignment although he
regretted leaving Vietnam where he thought his services were
needed most at this time.
"I am not exactly
- and the DMZ.
Secretary Rusk:
They said they could be at the meeting on November 2.
We must stay with this if we go with it.
Let's keep this language out.
Time is putting pres sure on them.
Secretary Clifford: If this deal goes through, could you have
- - scale or acci
dental attack. We do not recommend full attack at all times. This would
permit a limited response.
(2) Instructions on the response to a conventional attack would be conventional, not
nuclear as is now in the plan.
( 3)
There was only
- . That time will be required to get all of
our units on the ground and make them combat effective.
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Secretary McNamara: We should have working sessions periodically to
discuss these matters. We may do this without the President. I suggest
that we ask
- were President.
Ambassador Bunker said that if you take any time frame - - six months,
a year, two years - - and compare it with the present there is evidence
of a great deal of prograss.
"I would do exactly what we are doing. The ratio of combat troops
- the New York State poll which shows
strong Jewish support.
Secretary Rusk:
We still have a good deal of time to work out a
formula on the Middle East. It is my feeling that we should put it
in the Security Council rather than in the General Assembly. We
do
- to tell him that the last time you we re over he re we advised
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you not to get into a fight. Now you're in a fight.
to come over there and fight the Soviets for you.
We're
- in April and conduct operations around there. April is a good time.
There is more flyable weather.
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Whether you hang on to Khesanh is a matter of flexibility.
have to have Khesanh as a price of geography.
We don't
THE PRESIDENT: Except
- their help, not their advice.
The President:
Mao has.
I cannot tell you how much influence either Kosygin or
The President: When we have a pause, we have a difficult time getting back.
Nixon: Who talks to the Soviets?
Secretary Rusk: We talk
- of weakness.
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Secretary McNamara said we should push our view on the South
Vietnamese to get them moving
Ambassador Bunker said that these things take time, that we cannot
rush it. The Viet Cong are their enemy we must remember