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  • reporters mistaken for demonstrators. Secretary McNamara said his information was that they had hid their cre­ dentials and went along to the detention camp for the story. SECRETARY RUSK: I am going tomorrow to Los Angeles to make a speech at the same hotel
  • --· - PUEBLO ·.-~------ January 26, 1968 Me e_! i !:_g__~ it h_ H_u g l:_ ~2:. de y -~~~ Jack Horner Meeting Began: Meeting Ended: 7:29 p.m. 8:45 p. m. G OHJ?IDEH'YIAI:r \ -:,\. -~ •' NOTES OF THE PRESIDENT'S MEETING WITH HUGH SIDEY OF TIME AND JACK
  • Sanh at a later time. --- We had a report of Frog Missiles being mounted on the front of enemy tanks. These missiles are similar to our Honest John. They carry an 800 pound warhead. These could pose problems. - - - In Hue there is still fighting
  • . Secretary Rusk: Abrams expresses considerable confidence. But if Hanoi demands new government in Saigon it might appeal to the New York Times. We will reject it. We do not want a 'give away 11 schedule. George Christian: They will cooperate for a period
  • - scale or acci­ dental attack. We do not recommend full attack at all times. This would permit a limited response. (2) Instructions on the response to a conventional attack would be conventional, not nuclear as is now in the plan. ( 3) There was only
  • on the first day -- mortar fire. Nothing since that time. There were a couple of small attacks against small population centers in the last 24-hours. The President: I figured they would do this to save a little face. General Wheeler: The North
  • and Secretary Clifford have followed this meeting closely. I want to hear from people who are not regular advisers from time to time. I asked General Abram.s to come here today . . General Wheeler has been conferring with General Westmoreland. I want to hear
  • !-J7 SECRET.ARY RUSK: We must carefully prepare the briefings for the candidates and the T. V. speech. SECRET ARY CLIFFORD: Hanoi chose Sunday as the day to relent and accept the GVN at the conference table. WALT ROST OW: ivlid-month was time
  • : The President: Walt Rostow: 9:00 a. m. Saigon time Saturday. Should we refer to reconnaissance? Yes. Reconnaissance will continue. The President: When would we announce/ UECLASSIFIED E.O. 12356. Sec. 3.4 M'!fTTNG t110T!S COPYRIGMl~O -Pe
  • of the time the GVN delegates are there, and when Hanoi can get the NLF delegates there. Bill Bundy: I agree. It is the only way to keep the Armed Services with us. Secretary Clifford: We must make it clear that we have no intention of stopping the bombing
  • memoranda from Walt Rostow relating to the violation of Chinese air space and the shooting down of a U.S. aircraft. The two memoranda are attached as APPENDIX A and APPENDIX B. Admiral Clarey: We propose sending a chopper in lo~. The 7th Fleet believes
  • : 00 P• m. cI tA !l.t ~ .. ·JV 1," MEMORANDUM FOR THE PRESIDENT lo FROM: /1? Tom Johnson At~ched are the notes of the President's meeting with the National Alliance of Businessmen, on January 27, 1968, in the Mansion. Those attending
  • . Richard Helms: We have the best team in Indonesia I've ever known, starting at the Ambassadorial level and going ri~ht on down. It's all lo\ key. Our presence is not prominent. President: What are the primary threats? Richard Helms: As long as we
  • ) will excuse my putting back on my uniform for a minute, it is my opinion that the military advantages do not out­ weigh the political disadvantages. General McConnell: I'd rather face them from China. only one half the time over target because of fuel
  • ? Secretary Rusk: The most difficult problem is the Jerusalem problem. CIA Director Helms: is not bard to explain. -•• --- ... VIETNAM -- The war is at the tensest point. Lo•t 128, 000 men Needed to fill out unit a Units now coming back Attack could
  • concerned about time factors. We should tomorrow stick to opening statement - - not push on to something new. The intervention by Trudeau in Canada is not good. It is like U Thant's -- it asks us to stop bombing; doesn't ask Hanoi to do anything
  • . That time will be required to get all of our units on the ground and make them combat effective. · Secretary McNamara: We should have working sessions periodically to discuss these matters. We may do this without the President. I suggest that we ask
  • Council. In the United Nations the re is a long and strong background for our position in Korea. This would gain time for us. It also would give the Secretary General reason to proceed with private discussions. I think we should take it there, although
  • Irish or a Negro from Louisiana. For a long time the Negro has been dis­ criminated against, but I don't believe there is a white boy who would like to go down to a bhck country and be treated second class. There are more blacks and browns than whites
  • : It is a pure question of when you all are agreed on statement. Thieu plans to talk at 7 :00 p. m. Washington time. What does Bus say? General Wheeler: midnight. The President: We can is sue orders at midday - - stop bombing by Can we agree on how
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  • the .capability of providing in this time period. I recommend that we send him these men as soon as we can. Of course, it will be necessary to call up the reserves to do this. The President: Can we relate this 30, 000 to a specific request from General
  • and assistance. 11 Attorney General Ramsey Clark said there were indications that the situation had been substantially exaggerated. He said he was aware that at this time we do not know how extensive the damage is. The Attorney General said there were pros
  • you have any trouble with it? Secretarv Rusk: General 'Wheeler: Secretary Rusk: No. Do locks bother you. No. General Wheeler: No civilian casualties would result. Secretary Rusk: Time is running out. t ; I•' - 2 - The President: MiiTl
  • • in 1964. Why wo.ld yoa loa• the atat.e? T2MI•• an t!ae N&llOll8: ( a) F~cwer ( c) No greac Vietnam ~c &111)pOrC - ' J for ,..,_.. Gnat Society - MEi+l~lO NOT!S COPYkiGHIED Poblleailon Requi1 •• P9'Mi11ie,. ef ,,,., ri9 .. t Heldiri We Themas
  • WITHDRAWAL SHEET (PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARIES) - FORM OF DOCUMENT CORRESPONDENTS OR TffLE Hl40a notes Chiefs of Staff Tom Johnson's Notes of Meetings; .:t 1_ !TRICT•ON CODES a : , Clm.d Ex.:utfva 2351'gcwernrng .accass lO nl\ionai secudty
  • know if they are moving substantial number of troops and supplies north of the DMZ. Some black Monday they might pour over the DMZ and kill many of our men. We have stopped bombing for 26 days -- not it is time for them to produce. MttTtt•C ..~OTES
  • . But it's still going to take time. We've got the logistical base now -- we've begun to turn def eat into victory. I'm not distressed. There is no truth in the stalemate theory. The McNamara report this time was the best one of his nine. The President
  • . We are on a sound military basis for con­ In the North, they are rebuilding LOC's and their facilities. moving much materiel south. The President: They are Have we lost or gained by the action of March 31? General Wheeler: at this time. Secretary
  • all air, naval and artillery bombardment, and all other acts involving the use of force against North Vietnam, as of 7 p. m. Ea.stern Standard Time, October 29th. We have agreed that a meeting dealing with the substantive issues will be held in Paris
  • COP~TED PubUtatlon Reqoires P1rmi11iuH af Eutttright Holder. W. Jho.na; JeliMon NOTES OF THE PRESIDENT'S MEETING WITH THE CABINET, 1v1A Y 14, 1968 CLIFFORD: There has been a change of tactics between the time of Tet and now. The wearing
  • in the war. The Communist theory of war is that they are helping out a revolution in the South. When they are attacked they are outraged. I think the Soviets want to help. They can't until war is reduced to war in the South. Time pressures are on them to do
  • about Vietnam. He wanted Mansfield and John Sherman Cooper at the discussions in Paris. Fulbright wanted to know how seriously the President wanted peace. told him, "Bill, about 50 times as much as you do." I The President: I have told the press
  • . McConnell said if we were to stop the bombing, now is the time to do it. THE PRESIDENT: If they used the week badly it could hurt us. GENERAL WHEELER: I'm more concerned about the effect on the ARYN. They have been doing well. They will sit on their hands
  • no longer do the job we set out to do in the time we have left and we must begin to take steps to disengage. That view was shared by: George Ball Arthur Dean Cy Vance Douglas Dillon and myself (McGeorgc Bundy) We do think we should do everything possible
  • ' - ;;~-.ft Stop at 11: 00 a. m. - announced. Let's stop it so I can announce at 7 today or at 7 tomorrow. General Wheeler: We can stop it at 0800 Saigon time or 7: 00 p. m. tomorrow. There is nothing to do. Clark Clifford: Do we have information about
  • conventional attacks for the first time. Clark Clifford: In his cable, General Westmoreland also points out that it is national policy to keep the enemy from seizing and holding the two northerr. provinces. Hasn't that been the situation all along? General
  • it was not prudent from a military standpoint for them to be there. General Wheeler: That is correct, Mr. President. I have General Brown sorting out all the facts. There are several reasons why no planes were sent. This includes the location .of the ship, the time
  • ? . NARA, Date (;. -.:;J.1)_!'1 ct=l? , MEETING NOTES COPYRIGHTED Publication Requir" Permiuion of Copyri_ght Hofdw: W. Thomas Johnson Secretary Clifford: I thought final clearance with Thieu was mere formality. I thought we said -- now, here's the time