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  • HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh Nitze -- II -- 3 Vietnam and the assistance that the Chinese Communists were giving to North
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  • Milestones in U.S. relations with China from 1949 to 1968; U.S. policy toward Communist China in the 1960s; U.S. policy and involvement in Vietnam; the effectiveness of bombing in Vietnam; Nitze's views on the Gulf of Tonkin incident in August
  • histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh (TAPE if2) February 10, 1969 General Taylor, this is our second interview, and today is Monday, February 10. We are again in your offices. Vietnam in our first interview. We had been talking about
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  • with LBJ and JFK; ambassador to Vietnam; policies regarding Vietnam; Buddhist problem; Diem; Gulf of Tonkin incident; bombing of the North; performance of the American forces; Vietnamese leadership; “Warof Liberation;” negotiations; Presidential involvement
  • opinion, remember, we were in Vietnam. The impact was back here, so people in the States are prob- ably better judges of that. Khe Sanh, of course, was very easily--too easily--a very facile comparison was with Dien Bien Phu, and the press tended
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  • Impact of the Tet Offensive; dealing with Vietnam information officers; effect in Vietnam of LBJ’s 3/31 announcement; government-press relationship; LBJ’s personality
  • INTERVIEWEE: BUI DIEM INTERVIEWER: Ted Gittinger PLACE: LBJ Library, Austin, Texas Tape 1 of 1 G: Mr. Ambassador, you came to the South of Vietnam in 1954. Is this correct? BD: I came to South Vietnam in 1952, and I spent one year in France
  • Biographical information; Vo Nguyen Giap in the 1930s; the development of nationalist parties and the Communist Party in North Vietnam; Diem's life after the Communists took over North Vietnam in 1945; Diem's opinion of communism and his political
  • Assistance Command in Vietnam and Commanding General of the U.S. Army, Vietnam. From 1960 to 1963 you were Superintendent of West Point. Do I have the correct dates on these? WW: With one exception. I was nominated to be Chief of Staff of the United
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  • Recent appointment history; meeting LBJ at the 1961 West Point graduation; going to Vietnam—when, why; meeting with the Johnsons and staying in the White House; becoming Chief of Staff; LBJ’s decision not to run; Vietnam.
  • the role of an observer and listener rather than a participant. The discussion centered on Vietnam. expansion of forces in Vietnam. This date was early in the There was still a substantial margin of public support for the military effort up
  • , 1981 INTERVIEWEE : DON OBERDORFER INTERVIEWER : Ted Gittinger PLACE : Mr . Oberdorfer's residence, Washington, D .C . Tape 1 of 1 G: Can we begin by getting you to give us background 0: as a journalist before the time of your Vietnam
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  • Biographical information; preparation for covering Vietnam; reflections on McNamara; the Caravelle Hotel; recollections of Thich Tri Quang; the Buddhist movement and the Ky government; press policy in Vietnam; opinion of Ky; elections in Vietnam
  • [William McChesney, Jr.] Martin in which we agreed that because of the impending cost escalation for the Vietnam War, there should be an income tax surtax proposal, I advanced reasons for the necessity of such a proposal, as I recall it, at a cabinet
  • INTERVIEWEE: WILLIAM C. WESTMORELAND INTERVIEWER: Charles B. MacDonald PLACE: Washington, D.C. M: General [Paul] Harkins' optimism about the situation in Vietnam is well established. Did he ever confide in you about any doubts he may have entertained
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  • . forces; press relations; general assessment of the Vietnam War
  • George McGhee. George McGhee was the head of the Policy Planning Council. But more to the point, since one of the central focuses of all of this is Vietnam, I went in; I was sworn in and went to work, and one of the first things that happened was that I
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  • How Jorden got into foreign policy government service from journalism; going to Vietnam to assess the situation in 1961 and the resulting white paper; Jorden’s Berlin Viability Plan and trip to Germany; Averell Harriman; working group
  • Corps in Vietnam, is that correct? W: No. I went out to command in I Corps in May of 1965. M: And then carne back in a little over two years-- W: I carne back in June of '67. M: Did you ever have the opportunity during any of that time
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  • Biographical information; effects of Presidential visit on Vietnam troops; infantry organization; pacification efforts; two mission of North Vietnamese Army; intelligence reports; guerilla warfare problems; Communist destruction of South Vietnamese
  • : Okay. My first question. Naturally I'm interested in Vietnam and problems of television coverage of Vietnam, but I want to ask a couple of other questions relating to some things I've found in the Library, because I haven't found answers and since you
  • of TET in Vietnam conflict; LBJ's desire to emphasize his domestic programs despite Vietnam; impact of Walter Cronkite's special on TV regarding Vietnam on February 27, 1968.
  • --when a Vietnam story, let's say, would break, how do papers divide the territory, so to speak? How do you work that out? M: Well, it really depends a great deal on the size and the style of the paper itself. On a paper as large as the Washington Post
  • for the Washington Post; North Vietnam's version of events in the Gulf of Tonkin and how it varied from the official U.S. version of events; Marder's coverage of the Multilateral Force (MLF) story and the issue of U.S. sharing access to its nuclear weapons with other
  • Vietnam, Thailand, and Laos. In those instances, military assistance has been transferred from the Foreign Assistance Act to the Department of Defense budget. I think that's appropriate because I don't think the military LBJ Presidential Library http
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  • Military Assistance Program; American foreign policy; Vietnam; national security; disarmament; ABM; defense policies
  • related to or learning a lot from. Then in the middle of the anti-Vietnam War movement, the most visible labeled anarchists were people that I disagreed with tactically and politically, people who, you will forgive the language, organized something called
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  • Personal opposition to official policy in Vietnam; National Mobilization Committee to End the War in Vietnam; SANE; MOBE; NCAC; role of television; counterculture; assignation attempt of Dellinger; travels to Vietnam; meeting with Ho Chi Minh
  • month in Vietnam, which is still a pretty hefty clip. He wanted more civilians to help in the support area. And McNamara and Johnson got into a discussion over whether he needed thirty thousand more men or twenty-two thousand more men. Johnson wanting
  • , 1985 INTERVIEWEE: WILLIAM J. JORDEN INTERVIEWER: Ted Gittinger PLACE: Ambassador Jorden's residence, McLean, Virginia Tape 1 of 1, Side 1 G: McGeorge Bundy was on the original public affairs committee that was dealing with Vietnam, I think
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  • McGeorge Bundy and the public affairs committee; Bill Moyers; press coverage of Vietnam; Dan Duc Khoi; Bui Diem; improving methods for transmitting news; American journalists from other countries; Morley Safer and Mike Wallace; Vietnam Psychological
  • of Staff of the Army in June of 1968. From January 1964 to 1968, you were commander of the U.S. Military Assistance Command in Vietnam and Commanding General of the U.S. Army, Vietnam. From 1960 to 1963 you were Superintendent of West Point. Do I have
  • with him on certain important decision occasions, such as a meeting he held of the service Secretaries and service Chiefs prior to the decision to send United States units to Vietnam; a similar meeting in January of 1967 with respect to the decision
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  • Biographical information; relationship with LBJ; Vietnam; basic training programs; army aviation; M-16; Tet; bombing; preparedness level; security gap; profiteering; Selective Service; minorities; reserves; social programs; civil disturbances
  • with this. And then I'd like to come back and talk about Vietnam, and not so much, as you said at lunch, the issue of what happened, because we have that documentary record. But I'd like to have your reflections on what these major decisions of 1965 and beyond meant
  • Arab-Israeli War; Bundy's involvement in Vietnam-related issues in 1965; LBJ's reluctance to address issues in Vietnam in late 1964/early 1965; LBJ's refusal to allow Congress to openly debate Vietnam policy; LBJ's anger following Bundy's agreement
  • in Vietnam and Indochina? LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh Helms -- II -- 3
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  • Biographical information; CIA in Vietnam and Indochina; structure of the CIA; Bay of Pigs; the “secret war” in Laos; disputes on the role of the CIA; Edward Lansdale; Taylor-Rostow mission to Vietnam; “How to Lose a War;” debate over Diem; Diem’s
  • to Vietnam and so on is accurate, according to your recollection, is that right? N: Yes, it is. It's quite brief and written in his usual amusing style, but I would say that it gives the picture as it was. G: Very well, sir. Well, let us simply go
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  • Biographical information; Vietnam; mission personnel; Nguyen Khanh coup; Lodge; 34-A operations; mission policies; leaving Vietnam
  • negotiating, lawyer-type experience. Two, he was well connected at that point in time in the liberal Jewish community from which we were beginning to get rumbles about Vietnam, and he could help with that. Three, he'd be a nice piece of assurance
  • of the independence for Vietnam by then. The French were fighting against the Communists at Dien Bien Phu, but in the same time, they were negotiating with us about the Elysée Accords. 1 LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT
  • The Elysee Accords in 1953; the North/South division of Vietnam and resulting changes in leadership; Ngo Dinh Diem's early work as the first president of South Vietnam; opposition to Diem by 1960; the Can Lao Party and Ngo Dinh Nhu; methods
  • somebody who concentrated on Vietnam and another chap who concentrated on Asian problems outside of Vietnam. [Robert] Komer had responsibility for the Middle East, South Asia, and Africa. M: Corresponds to the ANE bureau in the State Department. C
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  • Biographical information; McGeorge Bundy; William Bundy; Robert Komer; Vietnam; Bien Hoa; service on high-level review committee on Vietnam; Pleiku incident; Honolulu Conference; Ky; bombing halt; Harriman; Wilson; J. Blair Seaborn mission, 1964
  • came to Vietnam." When had you served with General Westmoreland previously? S: He was the superintendent of the Military Academy when I was the commandant of the cadets. And then, of course, he joined MACV [Military Assistance Command, Vietnam
  • Stilwell's relationship with General William Westmoreland; the CBS/Westmoreland lawsuit; Stilwell's involvement in the Draper Commission regarding foreign aid; Stilwell's experience with Vietnam before 1963 and his assessment of the situation
  • after I entered the Senate and became a critic on Vietnam-M: Did he play any part in the Senate leadership as Vice President, prior to that time, for President Kennedy? LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon
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  • Biographical information; 1960 visit with LBJ; Soviet wheat proposal; critic of U.S. involvement in Vietnam; 1965 meeting with LBJ; Senator Frank Church; cessation of communications between President and Senate critics; efforts to end the war; White
  • himself. G: That does sound like a tough one. It's a good thing we didn't have to act on anything in the interim, I suppose. Did you have anything to do with Vietnam in those early years? 2 LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL
  • How Ginsburgh joined the Policy Planning Council at the State Department and his duties under the Policy Planning; Ginsburgh’s work on the Vietnam negotiating group; how Policy Plannine made their recommendations; Walt Rostow; bombing campaigns
  • : By 1967 the Vietnam War had grown dramatically since mid-1965. Tell me about your perspective of the Vietnam policy during this period. C: Well, this probably was another reason there wasn't a great deal of other legislative activity, because Vietnam
  • Cronin's view of Vietnam policy in the mid-1960s; public opinion of the Vietnam War in 1967; Senator Tom Dodd's 1967 censure; ethics among senators; the Presidential Campaign Fund Act and the election reform bill; the 1967 expansion
  • , 1982 INTERVIEWEE: ROSWELL GILPATRIC INTERVIEWER: Ted Gittinger PLACE: Mr. Gilpatric's office, Manhattan, New York Tape 1 of 1 TG: Mr. Gilpatric, can you recall the circumstances under which you were named to chair the task force on Vietnam
  • Task Force; Edward Lansdale; August 24 cable; Averell Harriman; Roger Hilsman; Joseph Mendenhall; Ambassador Frederick Nolting (Vietnam); JFK assassination; LBJ; Vietnam; General Paul Harkins; Joint Chiefs of Staff; military reports from Vietnam
  • in which he could bring support to bear to help our efforts. The program was originally called Third Country Aid, and it was basically aid from other countries, other than the United States, to help the government of Vietnam. very open-ended. The more
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  • Job duties for the Free World Assistance (FWA); LBJ’s support of the FWA; requesting the involvement of other countries in aid to Vietnam; 1965 Pleiku incident; public relations speaking engagements about Vietnam in the U.S. and Europe; the use
  • in the midst of a trip to Vietnam . when that was? I think it was in More than Can you 1966 . In fact I'm pretty sure likely it was in the fall of 1966 . it was in 1966 . But I did go over to Cambodia, yes . G: You made an interesting
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  • Time limit in dealing with Vietnamese situation; the Tet Offensive; Weyand's role; press reaction; impact of Tet on South Vietnamese forces; intelligence; Cronkite's visit to Vietnam; the pacification programs; decision to write Tet!; subsequent
  • rapidly at that time; then much connection between Libya and the Arab-Israeli problem. Of course, the Six Day War didn't happen until after I had switched over to Vietnam, so what Libya did in that connection I don't know. They broke relations with us
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  • ; differences between Walt Rostow and McGeorge Bundy; Komer taking charge of Vietnam issues as Special Assistant to the President; the quasi-military character of “the other war” in Vietnam vs. pacification; unifying the management of the war; using the term
  • INTERVIEWEE: DANIEL O. GRAHAM INTERVIEWER: Ted Gittinger PLACE: General Graham's office, Washington, D.C. Tape 1 of 1 G: All right, sir, go ahead. DG: Let me tell you first my connections with the Vietnam affair. It probably started back in about
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  • Biographical information relating to Vietnam; fall of the Diem regime; Thieu; General McChristian and order of battle techniques; discrepancies in the figures; the crossover point; "The Uncounted Enemy;" actions of General Westmoreland; Giap
  • advantage of the increased defense requirements for structural steel. If my recollection is right, this is the kind of steel that we would use in Vietnam for building, for building airstrips, for--so there was the sense that they were profiteers, and I'm
  • of the build-up in Vietnam announced in July and the President's decision, not announced but certainly transmitted to me, to go full bore on the Great Society programs, to keep producing their programs, to keep getting money into the programs we had, turned
  • to that, of course, through the JCS channel, we frequently became involved in major questions and would be called to the White House to discuss various aspects of such things as Vietnam operations, or the budget, and main issues of that kind. In addition to that, I
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  • Patrol of the destroyer Maddox in the Tonkin Gulf to intercept electronic emissions; doctrine of freedom of the seas; incidents involving Maddox; media distrust of U.S. service commanders during Vietnam War; retaliation for Gulf of Tonkin incident
  • President Eisenhower. Presi- dent Kennedy recalled you to active duty in 1961, and you served as the military representative to the President. From '62 to '64, you were Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; from 1964 to 1965, Ambassador to Vietnam
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  • with LBJ and JFK; ambassador to Vietnam; policies regarding Vietnam; Buddhist problem; Diem; Gulf of Tonkin incident; bombing of the North; performance of the American forces; Vietnamese leadership; “Warof Liberation;” negotiations; Presidential involvement
  • that after I became alarmed and indignant about Lyndon Johnson's catapulting us into a real war in Vietnam, I called Wiesner at MIT and said, "Don't you think it would be worthwhile for as many of the six of us [as possible] to get together and approach
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  • Campaigning for LBJ in 1964; serving on National Committee for a Sane Nuclear Policy; disagreement about Vietnam War; letters to LBJ about the war; RFK; HHH candidacy; White House Conference on International Cooperation; Spock trial; civil
  • it. On the outline that I sent you in advance, we covered, as I took it, the first two points. That would leave us to the number one foreign policy subject for today, I suppose, which would be the whole matter of Vietnam involvement, which we almost didn't mention
  • Evaluation of the situation in Vietnam in 1963; the problem with guessing how JFK would have responded to issues LBJ faced in Vietnam and the Dominican Republic; JFK's and LBJ's sensitivity to military opinion and the advice they were given