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Oral history transcript, Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., interview 1 (I), 11/4/1971, by Joe B. Frantz
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- of the relationship beb/een Congressman Johnson and f'k. [Carl] Vi nson, the chairman of the parent commi ttee? C: Yes I did. I saw that at rather close range. S: It's often been described as a kind of protégé-type relationship. Is that right? C: Well, I don't
- in the position eventually of doing what you fellows did vis-à-vis Europe--managing our own industry eventually and taking over . It seemed reasonable, and this was the thesis that I always mentioned to the American community, which I think most of the American
- to the Community Action Agency not being a program-operating agency, but to plan, to coordi nate, to be the fiscal agent vis-à-vis the federal government, be responsible for the fiscal surveillance of the grantees, of the delegate agencies . But that programs
- with the primary interest in our trade problems, particularly vis-à-vis Europe because that was my area of assignment, and also having some rather strong thoughts which I still have about the inadequacies of our trade promotion program, I started out
- went in and did the thing and then as the routine called for, when the two of them came out I stood in the way and said, "Line?" That meant, "Do you want a recei vi _ng 1ine? 11 time he would say yes. . If he 1i ked the group and knew he had
- of a misstatement, because from the very beginning it was more a matter of word than deed. In fact, Justice never really developed a strong coordinating responsibility. We did under Title VI of the '64 act which vested in the executive agencies the power to withhold
- , h e n eeded me to come that particula r Friday because o n Monday Secretary Mc Namara was leaving for Vi e t Nam and the Pr es ide nt wanted me to go with Secretary Mc Namara to Viet Nam . So I had to ge t my shots and pas s port and all
- Valley Authority vis-à-vis its relationship with and its performance towards Negroes, and I spent three or four weeks down there doing this. F: You have been credited with having obtained high appointments for several Negroes, most particularly
- was the link between the two, or introduced them, or something like that. P: I would think it's probably true. I would think so. Herman Brown had the same res pect for l\1 vi n .Johnson had. \~i rtz Because, that Lyndon They both \'Ioul d go to A1vi n wi
Oral history transcript, Merrell Blackman, interview 1 (I), 11/15/1979, by Michael L. Gillette
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- that the states bordering on New York would have about the same vi ew as New York does on the need for controlling guns. So I don't think that the leakage problem is that serious if we could find a way to make every state impose some form of handgun licensing
- : No, not at all. Well, maybe I shouldn't say not at,all, but this was not a problem. M: Our minorities were very small. The other consideration of course would have been that these tend to be very 1i bera 1 peep1e towards such subjects as c i vi 1 ri'ghts
- of the same for them. F: Do you have a sort of a rightfielder's position in this vis-a-vis the State Department and its operational function? I'm thinking about, you know, the old thing that the rightfielder ought to pay his way into the ballpark because he's
- to assess, or to make a comparison perhaps, between the way Mr. Johnson has operated in the realm of foreign affairs vis-a-vis the State Department as compared to President Eisenhower and/or President Kennedy? Ma: Yes, I think so. It probably would have
- political types, or nonpolitical types; that is, neither of them could be elected fence vi ewer c There is a ki nd of arrogance a.bout them; there's hauteur in a sense, which I don't particularly like. ."! ki rod of But I have no reason to believe
- just used it. Later on Sarge Shriver's group came in there; their Citizens for Kennedy-Johnson used a lot of that space. But Charlie Murphy's group stayed in that space. My wife worked in that space with Vi Berry and Charlie Murphy and Jack Burns, a son
- were like Shannon. You knew Shannon? CL: No, I've just read all of his material. ML: Oh, for God's sake. CL: Yes, he was. ML: No vis i on • CL: No broad vision. ML: No vision. CL: What we'd call tunnel vision. ML: He abso1 utely hated
- . And when we went to vi s it at that time Johnson as the majority 1eader of the Senate, I bel i eve Jack [Jacob] Potofsky was wi th me and Arthur Goldberg, and I think must have been also Alex Rose of the millinery uni on. There were four of us. He
- for the FBI? S: Oh, I went in about the time of the beginning of World War II and stayed in till the end of the war. I returned to Dallas then to practice law. [vi: Did you join this firm that you're now in at that point? '. LBJ Presidential Library http
- of those signs, "White" and "Colored", and this is his great achievement. But it's lost in the maze of Vi etnam and so forth and so on, and he finally felt obliged to resign. I always liked LBJ personally. I thought he was a nice human being, and I had
Oral history transcript, Calvin Hazlewood, interview 1 (I), 2/14/1979, by Michael L. Gillette
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- had one in vi rtllally every county. people. I was doing that. I had to go out and see those Eventually though, it got changed. Inste.ad of my having all of those counties, they changed it to where I had only Big Spring and Lubbock and Amarillo
- playing in Laos in the early sixties before the accords were signed? H: The North Vietnamese a) were supporting the Pathet Laos military forces~ and b) they had troops in areas of Northern Laos. The North - Vi etnamese never honored the accords
- contact? L: How \'!Ou 1d you set up these vi sits? This was done largely by Claude Wild, who got on a long distance phone and would pick out a target town and call two or three people tnere, and get somebody to accept the chairmanship and to call
- Career; Civil Rights Bill of 1964; first meeting LBJ; contacts with LBJ; change in opinion about LBJ; contact with White House through Douglass Cater; cut-off of federal funds; Directorship of the Office of Civil Rights; school guidelines; Title VI
Oral history transcript, William F. McKee, interview 2 (II), 11/8/1968, by Dorothy Pierce (McSweeny)
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- and certainly no one would deliberately do any thing that would impair our safety. On the other hand, I did feel that there would probably or quite possibly be impediments to getting programs through that I thought of vi~al importance to meet the growth
- a vis i b1e man in po 1it i c s . G: Anything on Herbert Henderson, who traveled with Johnson, did a lot of speech writing I think? This was just 1941, I believe. M: I don't recall him. I recall the name, but I don't know him. G: Of course
Oral history transcript, Earle Wheeler, interview 1 (I), 8/21/1969, by Dorothy Pierce (McSweeny)
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- . up. Pass him Go to the kitchen and talk to the hired help, because there's more of them. They'll listen better and they haven't committed them- selves like the guy behind the cash register." G: This was in the 1937 [campaign]? VI: Yes. Now
Oral history transcript, George R. Brown, interview 3 (III), 7/11/1977, by Michael L. Gillette
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- Christmas? He had only been in office about a month . He saw it coming, and he was going to have to make up his mind because he had read all the commitments and knew all the =7-vi tments . He felt like he was committed to it . G: Do you think that he
Oral history transcript, Richard R. Brown, interview 1 (I), 7/25/1978, by Michael L. Gillette
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- . We had several top-notch ones . He was very Campbell was outstanding . We had the president of Arkansas State College in Arkansas . a wonderful program . He had He vied very closely with Lyndon on the road- side park and community recreation
- Bird and me to vis it her. I had met Hele and went up on the same ding, but we got toge ther over the telephone nged for us that it was plane. Everything was just so bea utif ully arra lf. I could have sett led jus t marvelous. I loved the White House
- . I think not only did he help our posture in Central America, but I think it helped our posture vis-à-vis all of Latin America, and world-wide, the world-wide basis. F: So it spilled over the borders? C: Spilled over completely. Because then I
- signature to take care of the needs of the widows of former members of the Suprcr,,-e Court. non-textbook H2.y I was impressed \vi th that at the time as sort of a of hm; legislation is passed. F: Did Justice. CL:rl~ see much of Senator Johnson
- it with him directly? VI: Not directly. But Jim told me that he did sit dmvn with my memo and went through it point by point. There were some relatively obvious points based on the central theme that he ought to go out and make himself look good. After
- of the reports were such that sometimes you wondered if we had such an intelligence network that we claimed we had. G: Was there any differential, could you differentiate in retrospect between the type of intelligence that would come from the CIA vis-à-vis
- and a possible future president. F: We're moving ahead. H: Yes. F: But did he ever express himself on Richard Nixon vis-à-vis Johnson? H: You mean as being elected president? F: Yes. H: No, not that I can recall. If he did, it was, "If Dick
- of was ambivalent toward the end on its support. H: Do you remember that? You have a problem there that I can describe for you briefly. tell you about this particular case. I can't We had a little difficulty with the State Department vis-à-vis Lyndon, because