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Folder, "October 22, 1968 - 12:50 p.m. [Notes of Meeting with Rusk, Clifford, Wheeler, Rostow, Christian, Johnson]," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

. WALT ROSTOW: With the ambiguity in Thieu's statement, Ambassador Bunker should ask Thieu whether we could live through it. THE PRESIDENT: I worry about the morale. SECRETARY CLIFFORD: There is a missing factor here. what happened since last week

Folder, "[NSC Meeting on] Vice President Reports on his Vietnam Trip, 11/8/1967, Volume 4, Tab 60," National Security Council Meetings Files, NSF, Box 2 (Item)

Vietnam war . 2. During conve r sations with both Thieu and Ky, he emphasized the importan ce of the relationship of these two leaders to each other and to the leg islature. 3 . The inaugural speech of Thieu was his own, not ghost written. Thieu i s

President's Daily Diary entry, 4/6/1968 (Item)

; mf Joe Califano At dinner the President first read the latest press briefing. . . and fcgqKthen asked General Westmoreland some several questions. Amongthem: Which is the abler. Ky or Thieu. Gen W said it was his belief that Thieu was the ablest

Folder, "March 12, 1968 - 1:29 p.m. Tuesday luncheon with Foreign Policy Advisors - Clifford, Wheeler, Helms, etc.," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 2 (Item)

. Clifford and Rusk) Staff work on support for Thieu 1 s proposition: to provide between 100, 000 and 125, 000 additional men in six months. How to nail it down? Will there be conflicts between build-up of Vietnamese and U.S. forces? (See Tab A) 4. Pueblo

Folder, "[September 5, 1967 - 1:05 p.m. Tuesday Luncheon]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 2 (Item)

would draw up this order. The President asked how many were in that category - two or three. McNamara said two. ships in there. The other port, Haiphong, always has has Russian The Pr e sident said we should get a spe e ch worked up for Thieu and let

Folder, "November 11, 1968 - 3 p.m. President and President-elect Nixon," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

was talked over with Thieu. By the end of June Thieu and Ky had agreed that this was the best practical way to proceed. In July, Vance spelled out the your-side, our-side formula to Lau. Nothing came of it, however, at that time. In mid-September

Folder, "Speech, October 29, 1968," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

for peace. Last weekend the essential understanding we had been seeking with the North Vietnamese on the critical is sues between us was reached. And today -- jointly with President Thieu of the Republic of Vietnam -- I have ordered that all air, naval

Folder, "May 25, 1968 - 1:54 p.m. President's meeting with Foreign Policy Advisers," Meeting Notes Files, Box 3 (Item)

to divide off Ky. Secretary Rusk: He's taking wait and see attitude. Director Helms: It is dangerous - Ky keeping his generals close to see if Thieu goes too far. The President: Should Ky come here with Thieu? about it. Ask Bunker to think Secretary Rusk

Folder, "July 12, 1967 - 1:05 p.m. Meeting to hear McNamara report on trip to Vietnam," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 1 (Item)

. operations had been reduced from 800 on his last trip to 30-40 on this trip •. i . On the political front, the Secretary reported: ·- The "greate_st . ~angertt I I is facing us. t A possible split betwee·n Ky and Thieu. 1· i The r.e is "no· real

Folder, "October 22, 1968 - 1:15 p.m. Tuesday lunch with Foreign Policy Advisors," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

announcement between you and Thieu. Secretary Rusk: (Statement, Insert B) 9:00 p. m. Friday, 9:30 Television Statement. Thieu will go on too. The President: When do we stop? Secretary Rusk: Noon our time Friday. George Christian: It will leak

Folder, "[December 23, 1967 - 8:50 p.m. Meeting with Pope Paul]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 2 (Item)

the President ot know that I have not only given counsel to South Vietnam but I have scolded the North for not making moves toward peace. PRESIDENT I think your statements have been fair and just l want to express the hope that with President Thieu

Folder, "Walt Rostow, Vol. 47, October 21-24, 1967 [1 of 2]," Memos to the President, NSF, Box 24 (Item)

«-,. FOR THE SECRETARY FROM I saw General Thieu in the direction of negotiations the following· lines: BUNKER (Saigon, 9433) at 9: 00 a. m. on October 24 to discuss further efforts and a peaceful settlement. I spoke to him along 11 My authorities in Washington

Folder, "April 6, 1968 - 1:30 p.m. President's meeting with Gen. William Westmoreland - Washington, D.C.," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 3 (Item)

Pern1issie" ef (Qpyr~ht HlS"fder: W. Ihomas Jahnsen 11 -e=;;, '-.. - 4 RF and PF fought well except in 4th Corps. Enemy made maximum use of weapons. ARVN weapons. Only 2% did not. They were superior to ·r As for government, Thieu is gaining statue

Folder, "August 10, 1968 - 12:25 p.m. President's briefing of Former Vice President Nixon and Gov. Agnew," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 3 (Item)

and unbending. We will stop bombing under right conditions. PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS: We have tried to come up with formula to let us stop the bombing with no public Vance: They have refused to suggest anything at this point. will not permit the Thieu-Ky

Folder, "[September 15, 1967 - 7:27 p.m. Meeting with Foreign Policy Advisors]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 2 (Item)

on that recommendation." ~~~~W~=~~----------------------~· The President asked what is happening in Vietnam. Rusk replied "we are getting·~Thieu and Ky working together now, and that is the primary concern. " The President said "we should get Bunker to get them to put

Folder, "October 14, 1968 - Foreign Policy Advisory Group meeting," Meeting Notes Files, Box 3 (Item)

informed the President that all present had now been briefed on events since Friday. The President might wish to get their reactions and then consider next steps. ,. The President, noting a question raised by Thieu(_?") 1 asked why infiltration

Folder, "February 28, 1968 - 8:35 a.m. Gen. Wheeler"s trip to Vietnam discussion with Foreign Policy Advisors," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 2 (Item)

of the senior U.S. commanders. I also talked with Ambassador Bunker, President Thieu and Vice President Ky. There were a number of factors which surprised me. I certainly learned things I did not know before: The TET attack was very powerful and nationwideo

Folder, "[July-August 1967 Meetings with Correspondents]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 3 (Item)

asked for the President 1 s . views of comments on the Hill that were critical of the Thieu-Ky attitude toward the South Vietnam elections. The President said some mistakes were being made, but that we might be surprised there were not more. Even in our

Folder, "Diaries [Transcripts of Tapes 21-24]," Papers of U. Alexis Johnson, Box 1 (Item)

Folder, "February 12, 1968 - 1:45 p.m. Senior Foreign Policy Advisors meeting," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 2 (Item)

to the South Vietnamese and their determination~ I don't appreciate Thieu saying he needed more A~erican troops. I would think he would be looking for more ways to get more of his own men. But i f six battalions will help him exp~oit this opportunity, I am

Folder, "October 27, 1968 - 7:45 p.m. Meeting with Foreign Policy Advisors," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

. Thieu is concerned about the NLF being separate entity. This might leak out of Sai.gon. ~ecretary Rusk: It might leak out on basis of the orders issued. General Wheeler: Yes, it might. They will pick up the fact that the planes are flying

Folder, "October 28, 1968 - 6:30 p.m. Meeting with Foreign Policy Advisors," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

. GENERAL TAY LOR: He should say he hasn 1 t settled the war. is just another step. It WALT ROST OW: Should Bunker inform Thieu alone that you might make a decision tomorrow? THE PRESIDE);T: How does this differ from before when he leaked

Folder, "[NSC Meeting on] Draft Treaty on Non/Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, 3/27/1968, Volume 5, Tab 66," National Security Council Meetings Files, NSF, Box 2 (Item)

n '' frozen" in a de fensive posture. The reason for this was that the VC had established a stranglehold around the cities. General Westmo r eland had tol d President Thieu that one could not affo r d to defend a city from the inside and had to go

Folder, "September 26, 1967 - 1:15 p.m. Weekly luncheon - McNamara, Katzenbach, Helms, Rostow, Christian," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 1 (Item)

overseeing group thought the Thieu-Ky election was a fraud. The President asked Director Helms to check this and if it is not true, get the information to the Senator. Secretary Katzenbach: Reported on tre Rusk-Gromyko talks which were underway in New York

Folder, "October 5, 1967 - 6:55 p.m. McNamara, Rusk, Rostow," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 1 (Item)

in Vietnam this year. We should talk about Honolulu when we asked them to draft a constitution; we should talk about Manila, when we asked them to elect a President; we should talk about Guam, when Ky and Thieu gave us their constitution; we should talk about

Folder, "Walt Rostow, Vol. 111: Dec. 18‑25, 1968 [2 of 2]," Memos to the President, NSF, Box 43 (Item)

President's Daily Diary entry, 11/4/1968 (Item)

- and to the office 11:37a t * Walt Rostow - Washington, DC - returning his call Walt wanted the President to know that Saville Davis o f the Christian Science Monitor had a story from their Saigon correspondent that says that Nixon got Thieu to change his attitude

Folder, "August 16, 1967 - 2:10 p.m. Rusk, McNamara, Helms, Rostow, Christian," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 1 (Item)

'1t1i~£.ion cJ Copy tight Holder· w TAetflas Jolmson -ECLABSrFIED I! E.O. 12958, Sec. 3.6 N LJ '19 · ;) yo Hy~ NA.RA Date J - ' ~ 7- Dl> --.._ Director Helms: Read proposed letter from the President to Kiy and Thieu on the Vietnamese elections

Folder, "October 3, 1967 - 6:10 p.m. Rusk, McNamara, Rostow, Helms, Christian Robin Olds and Col. Cross," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 1 (Item)

of the Politburo. We need to stir Thieu and Ky up to probe around more with the NLFo Bunker should ask Thieu and Ky to get something going. This one is purely our thing" We need to get them going on somethingo Mr. Ro stow: It would be excellent for Thieu to say

Folder, "November 21, 1967 - 8:30 a.m. VP, Rusk, McNamara, Bunker, Komer, Wheeler, Westmoreland, Helms, Rostow," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 1 (Item)

are serious. The key is the establishment of confidence with Thieu about this type of dialogue. The President said there are four areas for immediate attention. The first is the expediting of additional troops to Vietnam. The second is the equipping

Folder, "April 7, 1968 - 3:05 p.m. President's meeting with Gen. William Westmoreland - Cabinet Room," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 3 (Item)

conditions of a total bombing cessation. General Westmoreland: We need a better company level- battalion level radio. Want recommendations on this. On general offensive operations, I have talked to Thieu and Vien to get South Vietnamese moving on all

Folder, "September 12, 1968 - 1:39 p.m. Tuesday luncheon with Foreign Policy Advisors," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

on the call to the Vice President? Secretary Clifford: He called me about his statement on troop withdrawal. I told him I had not predicted any U. S. tr oops would come home next year. Thieu has. Also, he asked if it were true a Marine unit was coming home now

Folder, "October 30, 1968 - 4:00 p.m. President's meeting with Foreign Policy Advisors," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

Thieu making speech? The President: Make it the day after tomorrow if possible. Secretary Rusk: What about the timing? The President: Announce it at 7 p. m. tomorrow. Clark Clifford and Dean Rusk background, perhaps even appear on television

Folder, "November 26, 1968 1:45-2:25 p.m. Foreign Policy Meeting," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

interesting that issue was never raised of bombing during the talks there except hitting the bridges over the Yalu River. Walt Rostow: The report says they want peace, but they won't come on their knees to Thieu. .' ... .. . ' . •' - 4 Secretary

Folder, "[NSC Meeting on] Vietnam, 8/5/1965, Volume 3, Tab 36" National Security Council Meetings Files, NSF, Box 2 (Item)

Thieu is a stabilizing force. He prefers to sit in the back ground, consequently, he will not take the post of Prime Minister. The present Saigon Government framework is solid but the members of the new government are not yet well - known to us

Folder, "[NSC Meeting on] Inter/American Objectives 1 Problems, 3/6/1968, Volume 5, Tab 65," National Security Council Meetings Files, NSF, Box 2 (Item)

that he too would have time to visit several Latin American countries to demonstrate our high-level interest in the area . The President asked Mr. Ht:_lms for the latest situation report from Mr. Helms said the Generals are fed up with President Thieu

Folder, "October 14, 1968 - 1:40 p.m. Foreign Policy Advisory Group meeting," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

said if I Thieu concurred in instructions given Harriman and Vance. There is a later cable. He is ready to go along to try to see if they are serious about stopping the war. A message was sent to Bunker to examine loop-holes and.contingencies

Folder, "Walt Rostow, Vol. 107: Nov. 19‑22, 1968 [1 of 2]," Memos to the President, NSF, Box 42 (Item)

Folder, "October 14, 1968 - President's Meeting with Joint Chiefs on Vietnam," Meeting Notes Files, Box 3 (Item)

his Government on the new North Vietnamese position by Monday {Text of cable reporting this exchange is at TAB E). 10. Ambassador Bunker and General Abrams called on President Thieu Sunday evening to go over developments of the last four days

Folder, "Walt Rostow, Vol. 58: Jan. 25‑31, 1968 [3 of 3]," Memos to the President, NSF, Box 28 (Item)