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Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 11 (XI), 10/28/1987, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • helicopter support or something--without a clearance by the White House. I was appalled. When I was a special assistant to [Robert] McNamara, I got a call one day and I also found out that President Kennedy had cut back on Johnson's mess people and what have