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Oral history transcript, Conrad L. Wirth, interview 1 (I), 8/5/1969, by Joe B. Frantz (Item)
  • we were. We had practically nothing. In 1951, when Newt retired as director--he retired the end of March--[A. E.] Demaray took office the first of April and he stayed on nine months until December. It was something Secretary Amos Chapman did