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  • running infrared missions at night, indicating great usage of these particular roads. also being used. Certain nighttime photography was But all of it sort of fitted together into a mosaic. This movement, as I recall, was what convinced myself
  • objects would be hauled through the streets at nights, and things of this kind. F: It was difficult to gauge-- LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More
  • of that in Saigon, but nevertheless, as a practical matter it wasn't a matter of affecting our operations out there beyond that confirmation that U.S. public support was collapsing. G: Did the Vietnamese read it that way? Z: Oh, I think they were very concerned
  • of an overview or summary-­ 0: November 20, 1966? G: On Yes . reading these I feel you made some rather uncannily accurate--I won't say predictions but something along that now, how do you feel line . Looking back about some of the things that you
  • http://www.lbjlibrary.org -9More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] 8 o'clock that night. And to make the arrangements. me much
  • : That's pretty high level approval before announcement. T: Well, that was when it was in the formulative stage. I remember I was at home watching the President on television that night, and just before the braodcast, the phone rang and a reporter from
  • couldn't win this war with their Beau Geste tactics of holing up in the fortified city areas at night and then trying to keep the country under control in the daytime. And LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon
  • in the United States, was to cally--as systematic as a journalist does prepare myself to One of the things that I did, parenthetically, rather systemati anything, I guess--try to gather basic information about the situation in Vietnam, to read some
  • the essence of the degree to which our thinking had developed at that time; and I think if you read those Fourteen Points, you'll see that they hadn't really gotten down into sharp, precise details. The view that prevailed was pretty much the one
  • ceiling 549,500. Then, I flew out to Clark .L\ir Force Base in the Phi 11 i ppi nes on the bJenty;;.fourth of f\1a rch, and I met with General Westmoreland and discussed this whole thing with him most of one night. LBJ Presidential Library http
  • , been FDR's secretary. She We drove through the night, and we expected that when we arrived, because it was quite late, LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID
  • in 1949, I went to work for the legislative department of the UAW--United Auto Workers union--here in Washington. My job was mostly research; I read the [Congressional] Record every day and I came to the Hill to get bills and attend hearings. I also
  • on the train. And of course some of them got on late at night, some of them came in the back door. Some of them, a few of them, fortunately stood up and didn't make any bones about it, like I was doing, LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org
  • o'clock in the afternoon. body back here that night. As you know, they brought his President Johnson--of course he immediately became President--called me quite early, somewhere between 8 and 9 o'clock on Saturday morning, the very next morning
  • Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh 13 c: Exactly. That was Sunday morning. On Saturday night we went over this draft; Bundy, McNaughton, Alex Johnson and one or two others were
  • Secretary McNamara that Mrs. Anderson should go to Vietnam. what arrangements can be made about this." See So I was pleased and thought probably after a couple of months I might hear from him or something about it. When I got back to New York that night
  • of calling Lyndon because he hasn't read the cables. When you get into one of these things you want to talk to the people who are most i n v o l v e d , and your mind does not turn to Lyndon because he isn't following the flow of cables." That was the only
  • came in, he was an old :ial of the Speaker' s , and the Speaker said, "This is one I want . " I had his Ci vil Service report because he'd been in and it was rather voluminous and I'd read a ll through it. We always c l eared them with the Bureau
  • for granted then. They could bust out of that and go any way they wanted to. We were coming in from Delaware one time, Senator Kerr and I, late one night, from a speaking for the re-election of Senator Allen Frear. At this time--this was 1958 or 1959--people
  • , and we could really hot-dog it, and we'd needle these guys every time we saw them at the club that night. But it did become the Twentieth, the wing did, and then it was moved to Shaw Air Force Base, still in Mustangs, and then the jet school opened up
  • is you can never say "no" to a He didn't even ask me. He just assumed that if he said "yes," I would. I remember when I came home that night. The meeting had been scheduled for about 1:00 o'clock in the afternoon, and he got to me about 7:00 instead
  • of ten minutes to find out that John Vann was a very special fellow. He was the senior adviser to the Seventh Division, which was in the Delta. And I suppose the best way I can let you know my thoughts about John Vann is to read to you a letter, dated 13
  • been the White Horse Division, but it doesn't make any difference, it was the division under the 9th Corps. He said, "They gave way during the night and there's no ROK division there now. in your artillery. The Chinese are now marching in strength
  • read that? N: Okay. This is a term that was popular in Vietnam for the combat-exhausted and for the shell-shocked. In World War I it was called shell shock; in World War II we called it combat fatigue or combat exhaustion, and in Korea it was called
  • , graduated from North Dallas High School, then took a B.A. degree from the University of Texas and an LL.B. degree from Yale Law School. M: From what I've read in the newspaper clippings, you made some friends at the Yale Law School that later had some
  • the palace. I ran down and ran out to the palace to get up closer and so forth, finally got back to the hotel, and Alexander was there with other reporters and he began to say, well, maybe he was a little hasty the night before about how everyone loved Diem
  • and night it seemed to me, we had a series of meetings to put together the program, using the French model, using a book of draft regulations that existed in Treasury but not quite on all-fours for this. B: This is all specifically on the matter of-G
  • /show/loh/oh 4 M: And what was that? R: I said, "You ITlUst have a short nap after lunch each day. You ITlUst take some exercise in the open, preferably in the swimming pool, and you must be in bed by ten 0' clock every night. If He kept
  • . Let me make two or three comments first about the President and foreign policy, because I don't find in any of the things I read--and I don't try to read all the Johnsoniana by any means. But the President in handling foreign policy, there are two
  • matched what they reported up with what we got from someone else, it was really awfully hard to feel that you had anything very robust or reliable. M: Of course, the non-NSC people who ",'ere involving themselves weren't reading the traffic. C
  • and had been governor of Illinois and had been helpful to Daley. But he was committed deep down in there, and this was even after that spectacular demonstration at the convention for Stevenson the night that he came out to the Coliseum. The mayor still
  • secretary who was Harry McPherson who went over to the White House. Senator Fulbright got a copy of the policy recom,::len- dations of the draft and he had also apparently read other things of mine. We'd been on symposia together, public symposiums. M
  • factotum. was in the Eisenhower years. This I was in Washington for a meeting of the American Society of Newspaper Editors, and at some raucous late-night party I ran into Lyndon and Lady Bird. We were standing around talking and drinking--it was very
  • for two years and then went to it was called the Oregon Normal School then for a year to get my teaching certificate. Then by summers and night school I finished at the University of Oregon. K: With a degree in English? G: Yes. K: And then when did
  • with Bob Kennedy alone in his room at the Biltmore Hotel the night before that happened, and I had no inkling. I was totally surprised. I was totally outside that, couldn't contribute anything to it here. S: There's been a good deal of speculation
  • to say, "vJell, now, I called" so and so, and so and so, and so and so last night. These would be people all around the country. [He was] just taking their pulse, you see, to find out what their reaction was to this situation or that situation. He
  • !" He was amused, and from then on it became the Quadriad. But just to show you how history goes, about a year ago I read a little item in the paper saying "President Nixon called a meeting of the Quadriad which was formed and named during
  • a marine brigade and an air wing and we were in the Philippines already. All the planes were lined up on the runway, but nobody ever knew about it, and we had five thousand men there. I'd go to the club at night and play bridge in civilian clothes
  • this country boy approach. He said he was having to go to these NSC meetings and read all these papers about foreign affairs and things and he really couldn't follow them. He needed somebody who could help him to understand what these were all about and so
  • . But all this is in the testimony. You might want to read it if you're interested in the subject. G: Right. Okay, now I'd like to turn, if we can, to your present job as Director of the Elections Research Center. Ird like to go back to 1963 where you