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  • the years under the leadership of Bob and the chairman of the committees LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http
  • beg your pardon--this was on the first one. He was going to Boston from Manchester, and I was going up to Manchester to meet him. Kenny O'Donnell, who was handling his campaign from the Democratic National Committee, called up to say on no account
  • of the commission? L: Oh, I think it was the President's. After all, DeBakey was the famous heart specialist; he was a Democrat--and there aren't all that many Democratic doctors who are well known--and he was from Texas. G: You had worked with him before? L
  • The genesis of the Heart, Cancer and Stroke Commission; Dr. Michael DeBakey; goals of funding national clinical research; influence of the American Medical Association and the National Institutes of Health; Dr. James Shannon; LBJ’s interest
  • at the airplane at the National Airport the next afternoon, as I was leaving the city. Macy had asked the President whether he would want to see me and unfortunately I was getting on the plane when they were paging me in the airport. So I missed
  • into the Department of Economic Affairs; Labor was 95% against the new Department; Labor-Management Advisory Committee studies merger and proposed that it not be done; personal contact with the President; White House staff; Cabinet meetings were basically
  • Deputy Representative to the Security Council of the United Nations. You are also a member of a number of organizations including the Civil Liberties Union, the American Juridical Society, National Society on Medical Research, and the NAACP
  • Biographical information; LBJ as speaker at commencement; 1961/1965/1966; personal relationship with LBJ; phone calls; appointment as Deputy Ambassador to UN and to Committee on Trust Territory and to Board of Visitors of Naval Academy; other Negro
  • Hannegan, who was also head of the Democratic National Committee. At then- Attorney General Tom Clark's suggestion,Bob Hannegan took me in to administratively run the Post Office, because he had other responsibilities. He had a considerable closeness
  • foundations that are working on federal money that in effect you supplied for them. H: Well, I'll tell you. When I got to be chairman of the Subcommittee of the Appropriations Committee and handled those appropriations, the National Institutes of Health
  • Biographical information; first contact with LBJ; General Pershing; FDR and TVA Act; Muscle Shoals; LBJ’s ambition; civil rights; Richard Russell; George Wallace; integration; tidelands; Joe McCarthy; 1956 and 1960 Democratic conventions; Woodrow
  • to the Waldorf Astoria, sit around in a parlor atmosphere, and just discuss the issues. We had Katie Louchheim, who used to be the Women's National Democratic Chairman, and a number of local women who were articulate and knowledgeable. He was just superb
  • are talking about. But after he was nominated in 1952 we were out in Denver, and the politicos came out, the Republican National Committee, campaign managers and everything. In the first meeting they had with Mr. Eisenhower, when they were arranging
  • said to me, "Now, Fred, you're going to run the department, but you're not to touch anything affecting the White House or the National Committee ." Mr . Bishop was given that assignment because he was the personal confidential aide to Mr . Day when
  • was just before the collapse of the German armies in Europe and just before the time of the San Francisco conference. M: And you were a consultant at the United Nations at that conference. Is that right? F: I was a consultant. After I retired
  • Biographical information; Finletter Report; 70-group Air Force; George Mahon; Adlai Stevenson; Vietnam; decline in power of Democratic party; John Foster Dulles; NATO; meeting with LBJ on 4/10/64 on MLF; lack of support of MLF; Ottawa speech; Non
  • : In this capacity, did you attend any of the general sessions? A: Oh, yes, I attended all of them. For most of them I served as a member of the US delegation to the United Nations and in that capacity I was the US representative on the Fourth Committee which
  • you wouldn't need the committees at all if you analyzed the problem properly. The old people needed bigger pay checks through their Social Security benefits. And the economic problem was to figure out how much the nation could afford to increase
  • the legislation was ; I'd have to check it out, but Lyndon wanted it out of the Rules Committee . In those days we , had twelve Members in the Rules Committee, eight Democrats and four Republicans . was the chairman . Old man [Howard] Smith, I think, Two
  • for most of the middle part of the year we were meeting once every week or once every two weeks just hammering out the program and policy positions of this committee. In the early days we thought that perhaps we ought to try to set up a large national
  • Biographical information; Assistant Secretary appointment; primary duties; Troika; tax surcharge; freedom to express opinion; economic forecasts; Federal Reserve Board; Wilbur Mills; President's Advisory Committee on Labor-Management Relations; wage
  • : The combination didn't cause you difficulty with your other delegates and the Ohio Democrats? C: You mean Johnsorrs? M: Yes. C: No, we accepted Johnson. M: When you went to Washington then for President Kennedy, were there any particular areas of HEW
  • that would give a Democratic candidate appeal. I strongly sensed that he was aware even then that he was in an underdog position with reference to Kennedy. But that was my first close contact with him and I saw very little of President Johnson again until
  • of all, tell us just a little bit about what brought you from Indiana and DePauw University, and so forth, right on into a life in Washington. B: Mr. Frantz, back in 1958 the Democratic party in Indiana faced a peculiar circumstance. As in many big
  • ://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh 18 Well, he convened a meeting of the Joint Committee on Internal Revenue Taxation. That's the House and the S e n a t e . and me to come down. He asked Kennedy They--he and the Republicans and the Democrats
  • these also delegates to the convention? T: Most of these men later became delegates to the Democratic national convention, yes. G: And that was the very convention delegation from Michigan that rebelled apparently when it was learned that Johnson
  • Address; LBJ’s 1963 Gettysburg speech; Jack Brooks; Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party; critics of LBJ.
  • one of the best nominees that the Democratic party could have. I had never heard much about Stevenson. I think I'm a one-speech convert. I had never heard him speak. I had been at Chicago at the convention trying to build up a bonfire for Speaker
  • commitment all the way through, no question about it. But Mr. Garner didn't like me because I ran against Black. You see, when I came here Black was on the Banking and Currency Committee. And traditionally if a Democrat beats a Democrat or a Republican
  • National Youth Administration (U.S.)
  • rights issue; Nixon’s inflation of economy; LBJ’s sound ideas regarding national economy; interest rates; history’s judgment of LBJ’s presidency.
  • there was no Democratic National Committee. I did the research work, but as far as talking to Lyndon about it, no. F: Thank you, Mr. Corcoran. [End of Tape 1 of 1 and Interview III] LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B
  • John McCormack's refusal to stand in for LBJ as a favorite son at the 1968 Massachusetts Democratic National Convention; LBJ's campaign weakness; LBJ's efforts to win the Kennedy family's favor; the lack of loyalty of JFK's staff members to LBJ
  • , but when the war came along . . . . After the war, I knew him better. He was a commander in the navy, as you know. He sometimes has blamed me for getting him into national politics. In fact, he said that out here when he was visiting Denver a couple
  • meeting in Joe Califano's office, where we talked about setting up working groups on various issues that might assist the Democratic National Committee in getting access to information that LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY
  • with it a brevet status in the national Democratic Party. Of course in the time that I was in Arkansas we had an extraordinarily influential Washington delegation from Arkansas. In fact they still do, with LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org
  • Biographical information; first meeting with LBJ; Democratic political campaigns leading to 1956 Convention; Central High School integration; 1960 Democratic Convention and Kennedy-Johnson nomination; relations with LBJ as VP; ghost writing for Lady
  • , this intervening layer hereM-the Budget Director and the Treasury-was perfurmed in the past, and to some degree is still performed, through what we call the Development Loan Committee and the Development Loan Staff Committee, which required the clearance
  • with him during the '50s, during the period he was majority leader. I took a good deal of interest in the Democratic party because I was a member of the Advisory Council to the National Committee. The two leaders in the Senate and the House, both
  • Biographical information; Advisory Council to the National Committee; LBJ and foreign affairs; role in peace negotiations; Poland/Yugoslavia visit; India and Pakistan; Soviet Union prevented bombing halt in Vietnam; trip with HHH; Manila Conference
  • the forecasts haven't been all that good all the way along, but partly it's just suspicious about what you might call fine-tuning the economy. The tax writing committees by and large think that taxes ought to remain basically unchanged so that business can
  • II of asserting its role in the foreign policy business. But earlier, within the Senate, there had tended to be a deference to the Foreign Relations Committee and very often to the chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee. You remember
  • ; weakness of the United Nations; State Department’s reputation of representing foreigners rather than America.
  • to see if I was a Democrat. I don't think it would have made any difference, frankly, if I hadn't been, but they did check to see if I was a Democrat. Hhile I'm rather independent, on the whole I usually vote Democratic and supported Democratic
  • Writing The Neglected Aspect; circumstances of appointment to office; disapproves LBJ's Vietnam policy; drafting the Smithsonian speech for LBJ; background of the International Education Act; the Interagency Committee on International Education
  • had been state executive director for Governor Stevenson's Presidential campaign in 1956. In 1960 I had served on Governor Stevenson's national staff for a period through his defeat in the Los Angeles National Democratic Convention. Mc
  • Biographical information; work on Credentials Committee at 1964 Democratic Convention; support for Adlai Stevenson at 1956 and 1960 Conventions; JFK’s nomination at 1960 Convention; becaming a State Dept. employee 1965; contact with Senator Robert
  • went on all during that period. But the degree to which he was active I think was somewhat limited; he was not particularly engaged in political pursuits at that stage although he was on the Democratic Study Group, or the Policy Committee I guess
  • Biographical information; contacts with Johnson; support of LBJ in 1960; Democratic Policy Commission; State Department informing Vice President's office; Potomac Marching Society; Kennedy Administration; working for Johnson; Advisory Committee
  • , was a member of the House Committee on Naval Affairs, \'Jhich Nr. Vinson was chairman of then. I went to a small military prep school and junior college in Milledgeville and graduated from the University of Georgia in 1959 with a degree in journalism. From
  • the agencies in the process legislative formation. So when Moyers reestablished the idea in 1964, Kermit Gordon was quite receptive; and instead of being out in hotel rooms in Idlewild Airport as in 1960 hoping the Democratic National Committee would pay
  • the early part of 1965 . Is that cor rec t ? O: In addition to that, Doctor , I v1as a l so execu t ive director of the [ Democratic] National Con1nittee . I held two posit i ons at the same time . M: You had been i n Washington beg i nn i ng i n
  • Biographical information; LBJ's relationship with JFK; LBJ's Presidential aspirations; 1960 Democratic Convention; LBJ's relationship with RFK; labor; 1960 campaign; Rayburn; LBJ as VP; access to JFK; Bobby Baker case; Connally-Yarborough conflict
  • because under debate those members who are member s of a committee will be recog­ nized, or tho se who are senior, and I had absolutely no seniority and wasn·· t on the committee. F: You weren 't senior to very many peop l e , were you? P: I wa s senio
  • advisory posts prior to your involvement in the Johnson Administration. You were on the Regional War Labor Boards during the war and then you were on Eisenhower's Commission on Intergovernmental Relations, Eisenhower's Commission on National Goals
  • in Indonesia; heading up Carnegie Commission on Higher Education; impression of Alice Rivlin’s work; Edith Green’s higher education bill; carry-over into Nixon Administration; bloc grant issue; Kerr as chairman of the National Committee for Political Settlement
  • be helpful to have me here. He actually asked me if I would be willing to serve as the vice chairman of the Democratic National Committee, and I said that I didn't feel that I could do that. I thought that should be someone who had been more involved
  • leader; you know, really a terrific leader of the Senate [and] was getting things done there. In 1957--my recollection now after all these years--everyone thought that he was maneuvering for the Democratic nomination in 1960. I think perhaps I felt
  • Biographical information; 1960 “rump session;” Henry Cabot Lodge; campaign trips; Democratic ticket; Catholic issue; McCarthy censure; Watkins Committee; Vice Presidency; assassination; Connally-Yarborough feud; Dallas; funeral; Vietnam; press