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  • minutes. Well. luckily, John Taber of New York, as soon as I was presented to this Conference Committee, said, "Mr. Hoyt, what do you think of the D.P.A.?II interrupted, of course. I was Instead of five minutes I got forty-five minutes, LBJ
  • well kept secret. M: Yes it was. Were those real cuts, that extra billion or so, or were they shuffled figures? D: Well, there was some shuffling of figures to get down to the ninety-nine and a half. Then there was some more to get lower, but II d
  • , "I'm gOing to get them. I'm smarter than they are." Then he elaborated and said, "I'm going to offer fvlorse a job that he won't refuse, and it wi 11 rui n him. II That job was a job to be the negotiator in the airline mechanics strike, which
  • and said, "That was a fine talk you gave. Have you consulted with Lyndon Johnson on this matter?" And I said, "No, I haven't." And he said, "Do you know- the role that Lyndon Johnson has played in this? gets passed, it will be his doing, not yours. II
  • without Diem," and those who said, "We cannot accomplish our aims with Diem. II It was almost a fifty-fifty spl it. Now, one of the fellows who became very key in the whole Vietnam affair, George Carver, I can recall him coming in after the fall of Diem
  • to be sure~ because we didn't get any response from you. II I said, "Well, where did you send this cablegram?" He said, IIWe sent it to the address of your newspaper in Pari s. II At thi s time~ Paris. the Times was still publishing an international
  • car." going to get my car. driver. He So he was LBJ said, "You see that fellow. He's my He's been the driver for the majority leader for many years, going back to Joe Robinson. II F: Joe Robinson from Arkansas. M: He said, liDo you know he
  • LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh INTERVIEW II DATE: April 24, 1981
  • Oral history transcript, Barry Zorthian, interview 2 (II), 4/24/1981, by Michael L. Gillette
  • in the press. My experience has been that after every war the underachievers come up with something related to the war, whether it's shell shock or whether it's gassed in World War II or whether it's battle fatigue in World War II or whether it's Agent Orange
  • , really? N: He said, IIWhen you're the president or the vice president, or even a governor, all of your dissidents are spread out, II I think his \'lOrds were, LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B
  • find many who like to kill people. run into a single one. I haven't So what I'm saying, you will hear little remarks that really are not meaningful. Just like during World War II, bad language, obscenities, were the mode of operation. cal military
  • TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh Hilsman -- I -- 5 convinced after that trip--I had been a guerrilla leader in World War II and taking
  • and that kind of thing they asked about. G: What was the concern about napalm? We'd used it in World War II; we'ld used it in Korea. F: Well, we didn't use napalm in World War II until the very end against the Japanese, but if we'd had napalm in World War II
  • President Humphrey was concerned, it was a mark of appreciation of a good ally. So far as President Johnson was concerned, it was something rather more than that. course been in Australia as a young man. He had of Early in World War II he had spent
  • publicized, it won't be supported. II He said, "Well, I'll tell you Hof:fman if you should build a sixty-five storey skyscraper in the middle of New York, we'll give you a few sticks on the financial page. But just blow up a two-storey building anywhere
  • : "Get whatever resources you need together to do this study, and you've got about thirty days to get it done. within about thirty days. II We want to start reorganizing Then I began to devote all my time to getting this briefing prepared. LBJ
  • for that?" sai d, "That cl inched the case ~ And he II And he related the part that I had in it because I gave the $2,000. My name was mentioned there; he related it, and the crowd \'/ent wild. And he delivered an excellent speech, so much so that after he
  • , in some ways it war. is a ci yil II And he flushed quite red, visibly angry, and said, "Don't you play word games with me!" Which was one of my first and many run-ins with the difficulty of communication with Bundy on serious issues. So I then went
  • --that the Marine Corps has gotten perhaps less public exposure for its participation in Vietnam than it has in past involvements the United States has had such as Korea, for example, World War II, the Pacific? W: Is there some reason for this? No, I don't think
  • wonderful. wonderful. II Then we got in the cars and started downtown. Except for a few signs on the way, it was a fantastically friendly crowd. LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral
  • with commercial loan operations, but this is too much like foreign aid--like giving it away. II That was the difficulty we ran into. Now with the Inter-American Bank, the Latins had felt for many, many years that they needed a bank of their own. They said
  • sharp philosophic split in those days between us and what we called the Dixiecrats; they called us the "left-wingers. within the party. II There was a dichotomy that was very pronounced Sam Rayburn and the other House party leaders had a very
  • ://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh INTERVIEW II DATE: August 18, 1970 INTERVIEWEE: ROBERT KO}lliR INTERVIEWER: JOE
  • Oral history transcript, Robert Komer, interview 2 (II), 8/18/1970, by Joe B. Frantz
  • much. II He then proceeded to give me the details as to.when they wanted me to report, which was in January. We talked about who would replace me as Commander of the XVIII Airborne Corps at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. I had no contact
  • just a very brief biographical background on your career, so we can kind of get started. D: All right. Basically, I am an artilleryman in the Army--or was through World War II. I was an artilleryman in General Patton's Third Army in the European
  • ; 1,_1 " t'" ,, q IIIII II i,';i :t'l i ! II i I I, I I,i As a former Marine it's good to get back to Quantico. I am especially pleased to share the next hour with you talking about a subject of vital importance to Marines the broad field
  • LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh INTERVIEW II INTERVIEWEE: CHESTER
  • Oral history transcript, Chester L. Cooper, interview 2 (II), 7/17/1969, by Paige E. Mulhollan
  • , humor . No humor . no Ernie Pyle . of the war- You know, you had no Bill Mauldin . There were a couple of old World War II who had been pretty well and tried to do in which there was no That was its chief characteristic except very black humor
  • , by the way, administered a program of war claims, involving roughly 23,800 claims. We did that in a four-year period. M: This would be from World War II? R: These were World War II claims. The law was passed on October 22, 1962. LBJ Presidential
  • with the President, because of the position he occupies. But she came back that afternoon, when she came in she was smil ing, and she said, "Well, you were right." about it." I said, II Well , tell me She said of course she sat up on the front row, and he paid
  • immediately assumed that somebody had duplicated the key. Now in the case of Vietnam, I've always had the feeling that we reasoned from the analogy of our experience in post-World War II Europe. We looked at Communist China as though it were Russia; we looked
  • Oral history transcript, Paul C. Warnke, interview 2 (II), 1/15/1969, by Dorothy Pierce (McSweeny)
  • ." G: I was about to ask-- P: And he said, Warfare]. II I'm (Laughter) Well , here's Paul Linebarger's book on it [Psychological Read it and then try to figure out how you might apply something to the Vietnamese situation." So I studied
  • to the ESEA 25 The White House exerted power on the Democratic members of Congress 27 "Cre di bi Ii ty gap" 28 White House briefing 29 The Great Society; Vietnam War, Tonkin Resolution 32 Quie interpretation of Johnson as President LBJ Presidential
  • Kong, the more mature, older, some of the World War II and Korean [War] vintage correspondents out of Hong Kong, Tokyo, Bangkok, points east and west who would come in periodically to cover. Even Time magazine's bureau chief at that time, a fellow
  • with the then-Mrs. Kennedy, who was not quite the easiest person, you might say, to deal with, and had strong opinions of her own. He said "Well, he's been abusing me all the time and, if I reappoint him, they'll thi nk I'm afraid of him. II I said, "I don't
  • did, in Moyers' office briefly before I left, yes. II He said, I want to kno\'1, can they pull it off? What ki nd of options are there in the democratic development in Vietnam?" effect. "And I want it frankly. or some such phrase. Words
  • her morality but I obviously get indignant the same way. And to hear, for instance, that at the end of World War II the French government first promised Ho Chi Minh that they would stay out and allow the country to be free, and then they secretly
  • Oral history transcript, Gale McGee, interview 2 (II), 3/10/1969, by Joe B. Frantz
  • , line 22 transcript Interview I, p. 40, lines 21-~ transcript More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh DATE RESTRICTION [same sanitization 5/9/00 NLJ 00-105] 1130170 A same sanitization 5/9/00 Interview II
  • me and sa i d, "VIe ~ 11 have a . nel'J president--" This is on the twenty-eighth of October, I think. He said, IIWe'll have a new president by Saturday. II G: Did you believe him? H: I sent the message back to Washington, and I said