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  • Series > Transcripts of LBJ Library Oral Histories (remove)
  • Date > 1970-01-13 (remove)

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  • Secretary told you--Mr . Schnittker, I assume . Bi : No, this was Mr . Murphy . Charles Murphy, when he was Under Secretary . And my remembrance is that he told me at the time--or later I guess it was--that this was really the first time he'd ever had