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Oral history transcript, John E. Babcock, interview 1 (I), 11/22/1983, by Michael L. Gillette
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- . to date. It's interesting to bring things up Later there was a man by the name of Sam K. Seymour from Columbus who served on the LCRA board for some thirty-six years. His wife was Welly Hopkins' sister and so stayed in some relationship with Welly