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Oral history transcript, Everett McKinley Dirksen, interview 3 (III), 7/30/1969, by Joe B. Frantz (Item)

LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh INTERVIEWEE: EVERETT M. DIRKSEN
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Dirksen, Everett McKinley, 1896-1969
Oral history transcript, Everett McKinley Dirksen, interview 3 (III), 7/30/1969, by Joe B. Frantz
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Oral history transcript, Everett McKinley Dirksen, interview 2 (II), 3/21/1969, by Joe B. Frantz (Item)

LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh INTERVIEWEE: EVERETT DIRKSEN (Tape
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Dirksen, Everett McKinley, 1896-1969
Oral history transcript, Everett McKinley Dirksen, interview 2 (II), 3/21/1969, by Joe B. Frantz
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Oral history transcript, Everett McKinley Dirksen, interview 1 (I), 5/8/1968, by William S. White (Item)

LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh INTERVIEWEE: Everett M. Dirksen
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Recollection and historical analysis of LBJ's House and Senate days; working relationship between LBJ, as Senate Democratic leader and Dirksen as Senate Republican leader; concept of support of Commander-in-Chief (when LBJ was President, in relation
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Dirksen, Everett McKinley, 1896-1969
Oral history transcript, Everett McKinley Dirksen, interview 1 (I), 5/8/1968, by William S. White
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Oral history transcript, Lawrence F. O'Brien, interview 18 (XVIII), 12/18/1986, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

for the vote. Apparently, [Everett] Dirksen had backed out after indicating his support of the measure. O: Mike's memo reflects the nature of the problem when he and [Nicholas] Katzenbach and Barefoot Sanders were in [Mike] Mansfield's office. That was just
Administration hospital closure in Montana and the importance of keeping the White House congressional relations department advised on all problematic issues; Everett Dirksen's dependability; Mansfield's 1966 concerns about Vietnam; Mansfield's refusal

Oral history transcript, Hubert H. Humphrey, interview 3 (III), 6/21/1977, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

INTERVIEWEE: HUBERT HUMPHREY INTERVIEWER: MICHAEL L. GILLETTE PLACE: Senator Humphrey's office in the Dirksen Senate Office Building, Washington, D. C. Tape 1 of 2 G: Senator, let's start today with some foreign policy issues during the fifties
interacted with people; LBJ and Everett Dirksen; strategies used by HHH, LBJ, and Everett Dirksen to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1964; LBJ’s refusal to sign the Southern Manifesto; strategies in passing the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty; Tom Dodd; education bills

Oral history transcript, Donald J. Cronin, interview 7 (VII), 4/17/1990, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

the on-the-wall type Republicans who were from states where it didn't matter how they voted either way. And he lined them up, and I think Everett Dirksen had an awful lot to do with a civil rights bill of any kind passing. And that goes for education, because
of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act (ESEA); an alliance between Republicans and Southern Democrats in the Senate, and Everett Dirksen's influence on that alliance; Tommy Corcoran; the Hill-Burton Act and ESEA legislation that favored poorer states.

Oral history transcript, Jacob Javits, interview 1 (I), 12/5/1985, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

, or without being particularly warm so that--it was very personal. Bill Knowland was more the traditional party leader. Lyndon was a unique example. G: Was [Everett] Dirksen more like LBJ as a leader? J: Yes, but also Dirksen was a speechmaker more like
Javits’ assessment of LBJ’s work in Congress; LBJ’s power in Congress; LBJ rewarding his supporters; comparison of LBJ and Bill Knowland and Everett Dirksen; the Lewis Strauss nomination; bills related to the Supreme Court; 1957 Civil Rights Act

Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 49 (XLIX), 7/18/1989, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

his suspicion, later confirmed by Katzenbach, that [Everett] Dirksen wouldn't go with us in the Senate without the combination of northern Democrats and Republicans, we couldn't pass the civil rights. [Emanuel] Celler's wife died, I noticed, and we had

Oral history transcript, Russell B. Long, interview 2 (II), 6/20/1977, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

that they thought they'd both have to fight for and insist on, either because of their principles or for the good of the country. Johnson was such an effective parliamen tary leader that he succeeded in persuading Everett Dirksen that it was to Dirksen's

Oral history transcript, Ewing Hass, interview 1 (I), 5/13/1980, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

close to both of the Republican leaders, then [Everett] Dirksen, the minority leader, and Kuchel, the whip. H: I think he was quite close to Dirksen. They were good friends. G: Was there a degree of accommodation, inter-party accommodation
Meeting LBJ for the first time; LBJ's relationship with Senator Thomas Kuchel; LBJ's work with Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen; Kuchel's work on the 1964 Civil Rights Act; LBJ's relationship with Congress; LBJ's political support of Kuchel

Oral history transcript, Robert P. Griffin, interview 1 (I), 3/2/1979, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

it brings up the relationship between Dirksen and Lyndon Johnson, which was very close. Yes, without question, LBJ's influence was reflected through Everett Dirksen. MG: You can't recall, for example, Dirksen leaning on you to get you to support

Oral history transcript, Roman Pucinski, interview 1 (I), 12/29/1974, by Joe B. Frantz (Item)

Bill give you trouble back here? P: Sure, they always did. The 1968 amendment, which [Everett] Dirksen wrote in the Senate, nobody understood; nobody knew what was in it. And it carried criminal sanctions. And there was no debate on that. See
after JFK's death; the War on Poverty and discrepancies between LBJ's intentions and how programs were carried out; the 1968 federal housing amendment Everett Dirksen wrote; LBJ's relationship with Dirksen, especially regarding plans to open USSR

Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 25 (XXV), 3/17/1988, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

, of course, began to erode the power of the Subversive Activities Control Board, which had been created I guess during the [Joseph] McCarthy era. Senator [Everett] Dirksen was a big proponent of the board, in good part because he had--partly because he

Oral history transcript, Jack Valenti, interview 5 (V), 7/12/1972, by Joe B. Frantz (Item)

and so on, Everett Dirksen turned 180 degrees on almost everyone of these. V: No doubt the President had a hand in that. Yes, he did. I suppose history will have to record a rather unique relationship between these two men. and rather warm. I always
Richard Goodwin; Great Society speech; initiation of Great Society programs; major legislative acts; Everett Dirksen; Bill Moyers and his use of power; Horace Busby; Walter Jenkins; Valenti’s 'I sleep better because Lyndon Johnson is in the White

Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 36 (XXXVI), 9/21/1988, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

to break a strike. That's not going to get many votes in this country." He said that [Everett] Dirksen wanted to do this by compulsory arbitration to set out the facts and then say there had to be compulsory arbitration. Morse said they ought to shift

Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 63 (LXIII), 4/17/1990, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

talk to [Everett] Dirksen early on about the-- C: He talked to Dirksen, and Dirksen agreed to support it. He never would have done it if he didn't think he could get it through. I think he thought he could get it through. I think he had Dirksen's

Oral history transcript, Stuart Symington, interview 2 (II), 11/28/1977, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

firm about McCarthy. S: McClellan, Jackson and I were the three on the committee. were in the minority. r We fe 1t confi dence in the capacity of both McClellan and Jackson. the committee, as I remember it. At first [Everett] Dirksen was on One

Oral history transcript, Thomas H. Kuchel, interview 1 (I), 5/15/1980, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

in their comments about Eisenhower. Well, my God! The Republicans that I ran around with, including Everett Dirksen, held General Eisenhower in the highest respect. So it was a great thing that Johnson came along and helped them. No, I think probably without any

Oral history transcript, Nadine Brammer Eckhardt, interview 2 (II), 3-21-84//19, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

? E: I can't remember any attitude toward Nixon. G: How about the Republican adversaries, [William] Knowland and later [Everett] Dirksen? Do you recall his--? E: Oh, Johnson and Knowland got along fine. G: Did they? How about Dirksen? E: He

Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 29 (XXIX), 5/16/1988, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh Califano -- XXIX -- 7 G: [Everett] Dirksen issued a statement in support of the industry

Oral history transcript, Carl T. Curtis, interview 1 (I), 3/10/1978, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

the best leader. Senator [Everett] Dirksen was a LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits
Service with LBJ in the House and Senate; characterization of LBJ's leadership qualities in the Senate; comparison of LBJ to Senators Knowland and Dirksen; LBJ's timing in bringing bills to the floor; recollections of specific bills and resolutions

Oral history transcript, Donald J. Cronin, interview 3 (III), 12/14/1989, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

of circumstances, would those same people be considered liberal or conservative? That's a hard one; that's tough. G: Everett Dirksen replaced Bill Knowland as the Republican leader. Let me ask you to describe how Lyndon Johnson worked with each of those men
of a Democratic majority in the Senate in 1958 and how that changed the character of the Senate; LBJ's relationships with Bill Knowland and Everett Dirksen; LBJ's reputation in the Senate; the Senate majority leader's power; Senate Rule Twenty-Two allowing

Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 43 (XLIII), 3/28/1989, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

with [Everett] Dirksen undoubtedly to talk about this--we went to McNamara's daughter's wedding at the National Cathedral-G: Anything significant about-- C: No. He took me partly because of McNamara. But this was a day devoted to his making up his mind about

Oral history transcript, William Cochrane, interview 1 (I), 3/17/1988, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

, that was when Strom Thurmond launched a-- C: Twenty-four hour-- G: --one man filibuster. C: Yes. Was that when Dirksen said the Civil Rights [Bill] was an idea whose time had come? Was that when Dirksen joined in with him and they put it over? No, I don't
Biographical information; W. Kerr Scott; Brown v. Board of Education; Harold Cooley; the Southern Manifesto; Walter George and Herman Talmadge; moderate stances among Senate leaders like LBJ; Benjamin Everett Jordan; Bobby Baker; how LBJ became

Oral history transcript, Harry C. McPherson, interview 10 (X), 5/13/1986, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

of his mind, the fear that, as he put it, Richard Russell would walk across the aisle and embrace Everett Dirksen. And that would happen as a result of the powerful, aggravated urging of civil rights legislation. That is almost bound to happen; civil

Oral history transcript, Henry M. Jackson, interview 1 (I), 3/13/1978, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

it and then he would move in on him. again. That happened over and over It was a different thing in the dying days of [Robert] Taft, of course, because Taft was majority leader until his death, majority leader until July. G: I gather that Johnson and [Everett
LBJ as congressman; Joseph McCarthy; bipartisan foreign policy under DDE; Space Committee; statehood for Alaska and Hawaii; LBJ legislative strategy as majority leader; 1955 Minimum Wage Bill; Hell's Canyon; Senator Richard Russell; Senator Dirksen

Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 19 (XIX), 1/27/1988, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

had a much closer rapport with [Everett] Dirksen. C: Very close with Dirksen. G: Really? C: And they understood each other. I mean you've heard the stories, the telephone story, the car telephone. G: Yes. C: When Johnson was drinking, Dirksen

Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Beirne, interview 1 (I), 3/4/1969, by T.H. Baker (Item)

Johnson's effectiveness as Vice President 15,16 Days immediately following Kennedy assassination 17,19,20,21,22 Sec . Willard Wirtz 18,19 Mr . Meany 22 OEO 23,24 Everett Dirksen 25,26 President Johnson's major accomplishments 27 Nixon
as Vice President; JFK assassination; Secretary Willard Wirtz; George Meany; OEO; Everett Dirksen; LBJ's major accomplishments; Nixon; Humphrey; George Wallace

Oral history transcript, Lawrence F. O'Brien, interview 17 (XVII), 12/17/1986, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

. The dollar check-off was going to be simple, and was ultimately, at some point, compromised in two significant areas. One--and I was party to it--it was compromised with Ev Dirksen so that you had an option--to go to federal financing or private-sector
it; the unsuccessful 1966 civil rights bill; efforts to get Everett Dirksen's support for civil rights; the effect of the Watts riot on the civil rights legislation; provisions of the bill to address civil rights-related violence; support for Food for Peace from

Oral history transcript, Ashton Gonella, interview 3 (III), 11/21/1985, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

this through to the best advantage of everybody. Dirksen was the most unusual. I think his relationship with [Everett] I don't remember that much about [William] Knowland, but every morning at eleven forty-five Senator Dirksen came in the office and sat down
LBJ's relationship with Senate staff; Gonella's working relationship with LBJ; personal relationship with LBJ and his siblings; Everett Dirksen; Hale Boggs; Huey Long; LBJ's early workings with the Senate

Oral history transcript, Strom Thurmond, interview 1 (I), 5/7/1979, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

remember the Area Redevelopment Bill? That was the depressed areas bill. T: I remember a bill coming before the Senate. G: You opposed that and I think it was ultimately beaten by another close vote. Did Lyndon Johnson and Everett Dirksen have a good
and control over Senate voting; Mrs. Johnson; LBJ’s rapport with Mike Mansfield and Everett Dirksen; National Defense Education Bill; how LBJ dealt with Vietnam.

Oral history transcript, John Harllee, interview 1 (I), 3/24/1969, by David G. McComb (Item)

supreme power as Senator Everett Dirksen. This made me have a very strong feeling that I should continue to support personally, politically, and every way I could a man who would give me such support as he did. Mc: How would he know that you were having

Oral history transcript, George E. Reedy, interview 14 (XIV), 6/22/1984, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

the rules, but understanding them is somewhat different. G: You had some changes in the Republican Party. [Everett] Dirksen replaced [William] Knowland, defeating John Sherman Cooper for the 8 ---- - ---~-- ~--- LBJ Presidential Library http
a constitutional two-thirds; change in the Republican Party; Knowland and Dirksen; nepotism in Congressional offices; Sam Houston Johnson; LBJ’s disinterest in the Senate; civil rights bill and related activities; committee assignments; William Proxmire; party

Oral history transcript, Robert H. Finch, interview 2 (II), 6/19/1990, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

it and persuaded [Everett] Dirksen and the Senate to take the leadership in objecting to his nomination, and we struggled with that for quite a while. Finally I had to withdraw the name and put in Dr. Roger Egeberg, an old friend of mine, who was then the dean

Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 44 (XLIV), 3/29/1989, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

guess. God I'd love to get these belts of my conversations with him. We've got to figure out a way to shake those loose from her [Mildred Stegall]. Just to listen to them. Oh God, here's a meeting with Senator [Everett] Dirksen about LBJ Presidential

Oral history transcript, Charles A. Halleck, interview 1 (I), 9/19/1968, by T.H. Baker (Item)

as I know because I know many times the boys were down there. Ev (Everett) Dirksen, I found out about it through Jerry (Gerald) Ford. They were there many times you understand, and that's the way it's gotta be. Truman. I used to go down

Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 41 (XLI), 1/18/1989, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

by and large got your deal. Especially if you can then wrap in [Everett] Dirksen. Because we've got an overwhelmingly Democratic House. Long being Long, I mean Long indicated to--and I reported to the President that Long had told people that he was opposed

Oral history transcript, Clifford P. Case, interview 1 (I), 3/1/1979, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

like Molly Malone and Bill Langer. He even managed to get Everett Dirksen to support him quite often. C: That is one aspect--and it's true, he did that--of the fact that politics and leadership, the exercise of power, was at the very core of his
Association with LBJ; Senate; McCarthyism; impressions of LBJ; Johnson leadership; relationship with William Knowland; techniques; timing; LBJ temper; space program; relations with Eisenhower; Nixon and Dirksen; Lewis Strauss nomination; 1957 civil

Oral history transcript, Mike Manatos, interview 1 (I), 8/25/1969, by Joe B. Frantz (Item)

you all count? The way I did it, I worked very closely with the leadership, with Senator [Mike] Mansfield, and Senator [Everett] Dirksen, and Bobby Baker, who was at the time secretary of the Senate Majority. Larry had a policy that I think
technique; arm-twisting vs. persuasion in Congressional vote getting; LBJ as Senate majority leader; Senator Dirksen; defeat of Abe Fortas’ nomination for Supreme court; President LBJ’s involvement with Congressmen and Manatos as Senate liaison; LBJ’s 1964

Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 57 (LVII), 12/12/1989, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)

," but all you have to do is look at Jerry [Gerald] Ford and [Everett] Dirksen saying we didn't make the case on the night of the State of the Union. He made all those basic decisions and he had--I don't know who picked the five Ps [programs, partnerships

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