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Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 63 (LXIII), 4/17/1990, by Michael L. Gillette
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- basic friendship with Russell was such that Russell wouldn't turn on him on Fortas. A terrible miscalculation. It's almost like, you can think back to [Joseph] Stalin saying, "The Pope has no troops. So what?" And look at television this weekend and see
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- Califano, Joseph A., 1931-
- Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 63 (LXIII), 4/17/1990, by Michael L. Gillette
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