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Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 31 (XXXI), 7/11/1988, by Michael L. Gillette
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- and make sure they felt they could get something out of it and had a stake in it. That's what went to this feeling about the civil rights voting act. I can remember him, for example, listening to Harry Byrd one evening bitch about VISTA volunteers in West
- on it. He was undecided for a while but he finally decided not to. F: Just thought no purpose would be served from that? C: I think. I don't want to attribute the views to people, but you can check them. I think Harry McPherson favored a meeting between
- then started working on a statement, I guess a quickie with [Harry] McPherson or Larry Levinson, one of the two. You'll have to ask them, I just don't remember; maybe my notes will show it. And then we were all in the President's office. I
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 50 (L), 7/19/1989, by Michael L. Gillette
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- , the Desegregation Bill, and the economy, the issue of the anti-inflation tax is all on the front page. G: New York Times, yes. C: In any case, as you might expect, the South not liking them, and the North. . . . Here's Bob Byrd fighting the guidelines. It's