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  • Johnson before you came into the White House? H: No, sir, I didn't run into him until I came down to Washington with President Eisenhower, which would have been in January of 1953. F: Right. How soon did you become aware of him? Do you have any clear
  • to their homes on leave for the Tet holidays. The propaganda put out by the enemy, the captured PWs, defectors, and captured documents made very clear what the enemy objectives were. believed they could achieve these objectives. And they apparently had First
  • in a six months' said, "No, sir, I don't . More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh time limit ." . And I I think it will seem abrupt to many of your colleagues, and I think it just ties your hands against events
  • INTERVIEWEE: WILLIAM J. JORDEN INTERVIEWER: PAIGE E. MULHOLLAN PLACE: Mr. Jorden's office in the Federal Building, Austin, Texas Tape 1 of 1 M: Let's begin by identifying you, sir. You are William J. Jorden, and your last public service
  • INTERVIEWEE: WILLIAM H. SULLIVAN INTERVIEWER: PAIGE E. MULHOLLAN PLACE: l~ashington, D.C. Tape 1 of 1 M: Let's begin by identifying you, sir. You're William Sullivan. Through the major part of the Johnson Administration you served as ambassador
  • INTERVIEWEE: ROGER HILSMAN INTERVIEWER: PAIGE E. MULHOLLAN PLACE: Mr. Hilsman's office at Columbia University, New York Tape 1 of 1 M: Let's begin by identifying you, sir. your last official You're Roger Hilsman, and position with the government
  • about it. S: Not with that crowd. G: No? S: No. G: What did you do? S: Went home. G: And you were skeptical of this whole operation? Not in the Pentagon. No. Did not. How long were you in thi s pos it ion? S: Well, I got out
  • no contact with Johnson whatsoever. M: It was strictly a Connally-- L: Strictly, yes, sir. The 1962 Connally campaign? Now, we had some Johnson people in the organization, but the truth is, it was not a Johnson organization. We didn't take over
  • ; briefings for Senate Foreign Relations Committee; efforts as ambassador; relations with Ayub Khan; role as Deputy Ambassador to Vietnam; team of Bunker and Locke; manpower mobilization; pacification program; political atmosphere at home; changes
  • or bevel off the rough edges rather than to face the fact that a mistake or error in judgment had taken place. To that extent, the Kennedy people that continued in the Johnson Administration had something of a divided loyalty. B: Actually, sir, you have
  • there, and on that particular mission I flew out of Da Nang. However, our units were rotating from Okinawa into Korat and back home again, and it was there that I flew my first mission into North Vietnam, on March 3, 1965. LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org
  • INTERVIEWEE: JOHN P. ROCHE INTERVIEWER: PAIGE MULHOLLAN PLACE: Dr. Roche's home office, 15 Bay State Road, Heston, Nassachusetts Tape 1 of 2 M: Let's identify you to begin with, sir. You're John P. Roche, and you're a professor of political science
  • weapons, the new weapons that we had. And the old ones that were turned in, about five hundred thousand, were given to something called the Self-Defense Forces, which were ordinary people who would accept a weapon and some ammunition to keep in their home
  • ://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh 23 home and he repeated the same story to his daughter, a sixteen­ year-old, telling
  • since what date, G: About the first of July, I don't recall, 1966. but at any rate, sir? Maybe it was the first of August. the middle of 1966. M: And you had previously been with the Agency since what time? G: 1961. In 1961 I was appointed
  • ://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh December 2, 1968 M: Just as a matter of identification to start with here, you're Eugene V. Rostow, presently Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs--since what date, sir? R: Since the beginning of October 1966. M
  • . Well, I was just telling you that I went in to see him, and one of the things that he poignantly asked me was, "Are the mil itary planning a COUp?" And I looked at him and I said, "Yes, sir, I think they are." G: What did you base that on? P: Just
  • . But the first three or four times I saw the President I barely had time to say "yes, sir," before he took off on the press and just held forth. You'd ask, "Did you tell him any different or did you present a different viewpoint?" You don't get a chance to. G
  • , are there congress- men who really have studied and learned the details of the International Education and Cultural Excha.nge Pro;ram and contribute positively to your program? F' Oh sure. home-work. By the ,'lay, I have to say this about Rooney. He does his He
  • : That's pretty high level approval before announcement. T: Well, that was when it was in the formulative stage. I remember I was at home watching the President on television that night, and just before the braodcast, the phone rang and a reporter from
  • was still coming in this evening. So it was now nearly 8:00 p.m. When he found that Kermit had gone home he said not to disturb him, he would see him on Monday. He asked me about the stock market--do you want that here or 1ater? M: You might go ahead
  • mentor was Paul Douglas, and he never did anything without Paul Douglas' approval. In fact, I think that was the signal to show that he wasn't going to go for the repeal of the interest rate ceiling because Douglas was against it. But the "mentor
  • Career history; Novak's private meetings with LBJ; economic advisor Paul Douglas; LBJ drunk; Sam Shaffer and Newsweek; press coverage of the senate vs. the presidency; LBJ's attitude during the vice-presidency; Kennedy staff's disregard for LBJ
  • to modification of it; he wanted to keep it as it was. change. So Douglas was for In fact had called me at home before I ever came to Washington. He gathered a few of us senators together and we talked about it, because a nUrliber of the nev./ senators coming
  • man, You know, he did tend, 1 think, toa kind of hyperbole when he got away from home. I thought his early reference to President Di em as the Churchil 1 of Southe·ast Asia reflected less careful thought perhaps than might have gone into that kind
  • there's so much background noise in the intelligence . You have to pick out what's important and what's not and put it together . Douglas Pike at all at this Were you talking to time, or was he still around? the LBJ Presidential Library http
  • , then? R: To tell you the truth about it, I was a great admirer of General Douglas MacArthur. He was given a luncheon by President Kennedy. time we just had observers over there. At that MacArthur was sitting on the right-hand side of the President
  • ; General Douglas MacArthur; Harry Byrd; conservation; Civil Rights Acts; major changes in U.S. government in 35 years; accomplishments of the American people
  • was Senator Paul Douglas, who was pushing us very hard from the Hill. I can't believe, and never have believed, that Senator Douglas was doing anything more than feeling that here was a bunch of small ~eople being pushed around by federal bureaucrats
  • . with Helen Douglas. But no The saIne way When he was descr:bing why he ran for the LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories
  • First meeting with LBJ; NYA; Aubrey Williams; Congressional support for LBJ; Dillard Lasseter; John Carson; political apprenticeship of LBJ; Alvin Wirtz; Sam Rayburn; Abe Fortas; Helen Douglas; father figure to LBJ; Texas sort of expansiveness
  • problem of one sort or another; either the political forces at home didn't like it or something. In the case of Israel, the biggest problem was that the govern- ment of Israel did not want to be seen as doing something that would antagonize the Russians
  • home down there on 6th Street. I had a wife and two sons, little kids. born then. Bill wasn't even They'd throw bricks up on the house at night. Once they burst a window in the car and one time they cut a tire, did little old things like
  • by the home that General Harkins lived in. pondent saying, "There it is. And that corres- There's where that son of a bitch lives," and waving his clenched fist at him. It was that kind of LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY
  • then, when did you see him first? M: I saw him almost immediately upon his arrival in Washington. I think he arrived, as I remember it-F: He arrived late evening on Friday. M: Late evening, and I think I saw him at his home that night. F: What
  • . But we were looking for signs of hostility Of course, there was the Dallas Morning News of that morning, with a very unfriendly ad. IIYankee. Go Home" and so forth. mostly friendly. We saw signs like, But the crowd at the airport was Kennedy
  • experience in that region . I had many impressions, but I don't have any overwhelming-G: Did you base yourself someplace in Vietnam and make field trips or--? 0: Yes . What I did, as most correspondents did, was that home base was Saigon, and I got
  • her before she fell off the cliff near her home. But what that document became was essentially an effort at an analytical document and as an indication of new directions to persuade the President of the character of the urban crisis. We were trying
  • had mobilized them, by now the units that would have been used in Vietnam would have been returned home demobilized and we would have had to start from scratch to form new units. That's one of the considerations that entered into the decision
  • always suspected that that was one of the communication gaps between the doves and the President. That the President was looking at the Joint Chiefs and Senator Russell and Senator Stennis and John McCormack and Paul Douglas and the whole military group
  • HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh Cikins -- I -- 17 some meeting. But he was strongly committed to going forward. Douglas
  • way to do that was to get some company with a plane just to fly them out there and back. He had lined up some outfit, and I honestly couldn't tell you to this day--it was one of the big companies, it was like Boeing, or Lockheed, or Douglas, but one