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Telephone conversation # 13509, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 10/1/1968, 6:06PM (Item)
  • "LARGER BAND: 6:06 P.M. TO JUSTICE ABE FORTAS"; "DISCUSSED THE CLOTURE VOTE AND WHAT TO DO NOW AND NEXT."; "TRANSCRIBED-YB"; LBJ ASKS OPERATOR TO PLACE CALL TO FORTAS; RECORDING OF FORTAS CALL STARTS AFTER CONVERSATION HAS BEGUN AND ENDS BEFORE
  • DISCUSSION OF FAILURE OF CLOTURE VOTE TO END DEBATE ON FORTAS' CONFIRMATION AS SUPREME COURT CHIEF JUSTICE; OPPOSITION TO FORTAS FROM RIGHT; FORTAS SAYS HE WILL WITHDRAW HIS NAME; DISCUSSION OF WHETHER LBJ SHOULD SUBMIT ANOTHER NOMINEE; POSSIBLE
  • Fortas, Abe, 1910-1982
  • Telephone conversation # 13509, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 10/1/1968, 6:06PM
  • ABE FORTAS
Telephone conversation # 11142, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 12/16/1966, 9:56AM (Item)
  • FORTAS ON HOLD 3:40
  • Fortas, Abe, 1910-1982
  • Telephone conversation # 11142, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 12/16/1966, 9:56AM
  • ABE FORTAS
Telephone conversation # 9020, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 10/5/1965, 7:29PM (Item)
  • FORTAS ON HOLD 1:45; LBJ ASKS OFFICE SECRETARY TO HAVE FORTAS HOLD
  • FORTAS ASKS ABOUT ANNOUNCEMENT (OF GALL BLADDER SURGERY?); KENTUCKY DELEGATION'S VOTES ON BILLBOARD AMENDMENTS TO HIGHWAY BEAUTIFICATION BILL; WILLIAM NATCHER'S INTENTION TO AMEND BILL; EARLE CLEMENTS' ASSOCIATES' SUPPORT FOR ADMINISTRATION; HEAD
  • Fortas, Abe, 1910-1982
  • Telephone conversation # 9020, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 10/5/1965, 7:29PM
  • ABE FORTAS
Telephone conversation # 9420, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 1/4/1966, 7:05PM (Item)
  • FORTAS REPORTS ON HIS TALKS WITH TWO UNNAMED MEN ON UNNAMED TOPIC (GRAND JURY HEARINGS ON BOBBY BAKER INDICTMENTS?); LBJ ASKS IF PERSON TO WHOM FORTAS SPOKE IS ANGRY WITH LBJ, LOYAL TO HIM, ASKS IF HE SHOULD CALL PERSON HIMSELF; FORTAS ADVISES LBJ NOT TO
  • Fortas, Abe, 1910-1982
  • Telephone conversation # 9420, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 1/4/1966, 7:05PM
  • ABE FORTAS
Telephone conversation # 13721, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 11/6/1968, 12:01PM (Item)
  • SLIP INCORRECTLY LISTS DATE AS 11/5/68; DAILY DIARY, ENVELOPE CONTAINING DICTABELT LIST DATE AS 11/6/68; UNIDENTIFIED MALE SAYS "HELLO" WHICH IS FOLLOWED BY OFFICE NOISE BEFORE RECORDING OF FORTAS CONVERSATION BEGINS; FORTAS IS DIFFICULT TO HEAR
  • DISCUSSION OF ELECTION RESULTS; FORTAS SAYS HHH'S DEFEAT IS NOT REJECTION OF LBJ'S POLICIES; LBJ DISCUSSES MISTAKES THAT WERE MADE IN ILLINOIS AND TEXAS
  • Fortas, Abe, 1910-1982
  • Telephone conversation # 13721, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 11/6/1968, 12:01PM
  • ABE FORTAS
Telephone conversation # 10553, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 8/4/1966, 8:25AM (Item)
  • CONTINUES FROM PREVIOUS RECORDING; LBJ LISTENS TO TV NEWS AT TIMES DURING CONVERSATION; FORTAS IS DIFFICULT TO HEAR AT TIMES
  • Fortas, Abe, 1910-1982
  • Telephone conversation # 10553, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 8/4/1966, 8:25AM
  • ABE FORTAS
Telephone conversation # 11377, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 1/20/1967, 12:55PM (Item)
  • POOR SOUND QUALITY; FORTAS IS DIFFICULT TO HEAR; RECORDING STARTS AFTER CONVERSATION HAS BEGUN
  • Fortas, Abe, 1910-1982
  • Telephone conversation # 11377, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 1/20/1967, 12:55PM
  • ABE FORTAS
Telephone conversation # 11333, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 1/11/1967, 3:45PM (Item)
  • RECORDING STARTS AFTER CONVERSATION HAS BEGUN; RECORDING OF FORTAS' CALL IS INTERRUPTED BY CALL FROM UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE TO MARY SLATER
  • Fortas, Abe, 1910-1982
  • Telephone conversation # 11333, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 1/11/1967, 3:45PM
  • ABE FORTAS
Telephone conversation # 10822, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 9/22/1966, 8:30AM (Item)
  • CONTINUES FROM PREVIOUS RECORDING; FORTAS IS DIFFICULT TO HEAR; RECORDING ENDS BEFORE CONVERSATION IS OVER
  • Fortas, Abe, 1910-1982
  • Telephone conversation # 10822, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 9/22/1966, 8:30AM
  • ABE FORTAS
Telephone conversation # 11189, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 12/22/1966, 3:41PM (Item)
  • FORTAS DISCUSSES MEETING WITH "CLARK" (CLIFFORD?) ABOUT RELEASE OF LBJ'S LETTER TO JACQUELINE KENNEDY; CONTROVERSY ABOUT RFK'S ROLE IN FBI WIRETAPS; PRESS LEAK OF 1962 ORDER; LBJ EMPHASIZES HIS OPPOSITION TO WIRETAPS EXCEPT FOR NATIONAL SECURITY
  • Fortas, Abe, 1910-1982
  • Telephone conversation # 11189, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 12/22/1966, 3:41PM
  • ABE FORTAS
Telephone conversation # 5215, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 8/26/1964, 11:50AM (Item)
  • Fortas, Abe, 1910-1982
  • Telephone conversation # 5215, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 8/26/1964, 11:50AM
  • ABE FORTAS
Telephone conversation # 9423, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 1/4/1966, 7:40PM (Item)
  • Fortas, Abe, 1910-1982
  • Telephone conversation # 9423, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 1/4/1966, 7:40PM
  • ABE FORTAS
Telephone conversation # 10912, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 10/3/1966, 8:16AM (Item)
  • Fortas, Abe, 1910-1982
  • Telephone conversation # 10912, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 10/3/1966, 8:16AM
  • ABE FORTAS
Telephone conversation # 10913, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 10/3/1966, 8:16AM (Item)
  • Fortas, Abe, 1910-1982
  • Telephone conversation # 10913, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 10/3/1966, 8:16AM
  • ABE FORTAS
Telephone conversation # 132, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 11/29/1963, 1:15PM (Item)
  • "(TRANSCRIBED)"; OFFICE SECRETARY ASKS TELEPHONE OPERATOR TO PLACE CALL TO FORTAS; 1:30 ELAPSES BEFORE FORTAS IS CONNECTED; POOR SOUND QUALITY; LBJ SPEAKS TO "MAC" DURING CALL; DIARY INDICATES LBJ IS MEETING WITH MCGEORGE BUNDY; PREVIOUSLY OPENED 11
  • LBJ ASKS ABOUT FORTAS' PROGRESS ON PROPOSED COMMISSION TO INVESTIGATE JFK ASSASSINATION; FORTAS SAYS NICHOLAS KATZENBACH AND SOLICITOR GENERAL WILL TALK TO EARL WARREN; POSSIBLE APPOINTEES; LBJ'S AUTHORITY TO APPOINT COMMISSION; HALE BOGGS' REMARKS
  • Fortas, Abe, 1910-1982
  • Telephone conversation # 132, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 11/29/1963, 1:15PM
  • ABE FORTAS
Telephone conversation # 8204, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 6/28/1965, 3:00PM (Item)
  • RECORDING STARTS AFTER CONVERSATION HAS BEGUN; FORTAS IS ALMOST INAUDIBLE; LBJ PUTS FORTAS ON HOLD 1:30 IN MIDDLE OF CONVERSATION
  • Fortas, Abe, 1910-1982
  • Telephone conversation # 8204, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 6/28/1965, 3:00PM
  • ABE FORTAS
Telephone conversation # 11149, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 12/17/1966, 10:45AM (Item)
  • "WASHINGTON"; RECORDING STARTS AFTER CONVERSATION HAS BEGUN; POOR SOUND; FORTAS IS DIFFICULT TO HEAR; FORTAS IS MEETING WITH "BILL" (MOYERS?) AT TIME OF CALL AND SPEAKS WITH HIM AT TIMES; CONTINUES ON NEXT 2 RECORDINGS; PREVIOUSLY OPENED ON TAPE
  • Fortas, Abe, 1910-1982
  • Telephone conversation # 11149, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 12/17/1966, 10:45AM
  • ABE FORTAS
Telephone conversation # 11150, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 12/17/1966, 10:45AM (Item)
  • "WASHINGTON"; POOR SOUND QUALITY; FORTAS IS DIFFICULT TO HEAR; FORTAS IS APPARENTLY MEETING WITH "BILL" (MOYERS?) AT TIME OF CALL AND TALKS WITH HIM DURING CALL; CONTINUES FROM PREVIOUS RECORDING AND ON NEXT RECORDING; PREVIOUSLY OPENED IN PART
  • Fortas, Abe, 1910-1982
  • Telephone conversation # 11150, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 12/17/1966, 10:45AM
  • ABE FORTAS
Telephone conversation # 10654, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 8/29/1966, 9:30AM (Item)
  • LADY BIRD JOHNSON, MARIE FEHMER, GEORGE CHRISTIAN ARE MEETING WITH LBJ AT TIME OF CONFERENCE CALL; ABE FORTAS TALKS TO JUANITA ROBERTS WHO IS IN OFFICE WITH HIM BUT ROBERTS IS NOT AUDIBLE; CONVERSATION CONTINUES ON NEXT 3 RECORDINGS
  • Fortas, Abe, 1910-1982
  • Telephone conversation # 10654, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 8/29/1966, 9:30AM
  • ABE FORTAS
Telephone conversation # 10655, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 8/29/1966, 9:30AM (Item)
  • LADY BIRD JOHNSON, MARIE FEHMER, GEORGE CHRISTIAN ARE MEETING WITH LBJ AT TIME OF CONFERENCE CALL; ABE FORTAS TALKS TO DOROTHY TERRITO WHO IS IN OFFICE WITH HIM BUT TERRITO IS NOT AUDIBLE; CONVERSATION CONTINUES FROM PREVIOUS RECORDING AND ON NEXT
  • Fortas, Abe, 1910-1982
  • Telephone conversation # 10655, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 8/29/1966, 9:30AM
  • ABE FORTAS
Telephone conversation # 10552, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 8/4/1966, 8:25AM (Item)
  • FORTAS DISCUSSES POLITICS OF AIRLINE STRIKE BILL; ECONOMIC EFFECTS OF STRIKE, STEEL PRICE INCREASE; RFK, JOHN HOOKER AND TENNESSEE GOVERNOR'S RACE; POSSIBLE ANTITRUST ACTION AGAINST US, GERMAN STEEL COMPANIES; COMPANIES' REASONS FOR STEEL PRICE
  • Fortas, Abe, 1910-1982
  • Telephone conversation # 10552, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 8/4/1966, 8:25AM
  • ABE FORTAS
Telephone conversation # 10929, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 10/6/1966, 6:02PM (Item)
  • RECORDING STARTS AFTER CONVERSATION HAS BEGUN; POOR SOUND QUALITY; FORTAS IS DIFFICULT TO HEAR, ALMOST INAUDIBLE; PREVIOUSLY OPENED ON K66.03, PN0 3
  • Fortas, Abe, 1910-1982
  • Telephone conversation # 10929, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 10/6/1966, 6:02PM
  • ABE FORTAS
Telephone conversation # 10656, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 8/29/1966, 9:30AM (Item)
  • Fortas, Abe, 1910-1982
  • Telephone conversation # 10656, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 8/29/1966, 9:30AM
  • ABE FORTAS
Telephone conversation # 10657, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 8/29/1966, 9:30AM (Item)
  • Fortas, Abe, 1910-1982
  • Telephone conversation # 10657, sound recording, LBJ and ABE FORTAS, 8/29/1966, 9:30AM
  • ABE FORTAS
Telephone conversation # 13135, sound recording, LBJ and JAMES EASTLAND, 6/23/1968, 9:09AM (Item)
  • JUDICIAL APPOINTMENT FOR ALEXANDER LAWRENCE; APPOINTMENT OF ABE FORTAS AS CHIEF JUSTICE OF SUPREME COURT; FORTAS' RECENT SPEECH ON CIVIL DISSENT; LBJ READS LIST OF CANDIDATES TO SUCCEED FORTAS, SUGGESTS REAPPOINTING TOM CLARK AND DISMISSING RAMSEY
Telephone conversation # 13413, sound recording, LBJ and RAMSEY CLARK, 9/12/1968, 5:16PM (Item)
  • "ALL THE REST OF 2 BELTS-FORTAS MATTER, SEN. HEARINGS"; "ATTY. GEN. RAMSEY CLARK SEN. RUSSELL LONG" WRITTEN ON DICTABELT; "TRANSCRIBED YB" WRITTEN ON ENVELOPE CONTAINING DICTABELT; CONTINUES ON NEXT RECORDING
  • ABE FORTAS' CONFIRMATION HEARINGS; QUESTION OF LBJ INVOKING EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE; EVERETT DIRKSEN'S LAGGING SUPPORT FOR FORTAS; APPOINTMENT OF UNNAMED ACADEMIC TO DOJ ANTITRUST JOB; EDWIN WEISL, JR.; LBJ TEASES CLARK ABOUT WALKING TO WORK; CLARK'S
Telephone conversation # 13508, sound recording, LBJ and CLARK CLIFFORD, 10/1/1968, 5:40PM (Item)
  • "SMALL BAND: END OF 5:40 P.M. CALL TO SECY CLARK CLIFFORD"; "FORTAS MATTER"; "TRANCRIBED-YB"; DAILY DIARY LISTS CALL AT 5:47P; CONTINUES FROM PREVIOUS RECORDING
  • CONTINUED DISCUSSION OF POLLS FROM PREVIOUS CAMPAIGNS; DISCUSSION OF WHETHER LBJ SHOULD CALL ABE FORTAS ABOUT FAILURE OF CLOTURE VOTE TO END DEBATE ON HIS CONFIRMATION AS SUPREME COURT CHIEF JUSTICE; CLIFFORD RECOMMENDS FORTAS COME TO WH TO MEET
Telephone conversation # 13414, sound recording, LBJ and RAMSEY CLARK, 9/12/1968, 5:16PM (Item)
  • "ALL THE REST OF 2 BELTS-FORTAS MATTER, SEN. HEARINGS"; "ATTY. GEN. RAMSEY CLARK SEN. RUSSELL LONG" WRITTEN ON DICTABELT; "TRANSCRIBED YB" WRITTEN ON ENVELOPE CONTAINING DICTABELT; CONTINUES FROM PREVIOUS RECORDING
  • LBJ ASKS CLARK TO CONSIDER TEACHING AFTER ADMINISTRATION ENDS; ABE FORTAS' CONFIRMATION; WAYNE MORSE'S RE-ELECTION; LBJ DISCUSSES STRATEGY FOR CONFIRMING FORTAS, NEED TO CHALLENGE ROBERT GRIFFIN'S OPPOSITION TO FORTAS, PARTISAN NATURE OF OPPOSITION
Telephone conversation # 9422, sound recording, LBJ and NICHOLAS KATZENBACH, 1/4/1966, 7:24PM (Item)
  • KATZENBACH DISCUSSES TALKS WITH MIKE MANSFIELD, EVERETT DIRKSEN, ABE FORTAS ABOUT GRAND JURY HEARINGS ON BOBBY BAKER, HIS PLAN TO TALK WITH JOHN MCCORMACK TOMORROW, TELLS LBJ THAT FORTAS OPPOSES GRAND JURY INDICTMENTS OF BAKER ON MISAPPROPRIATION
Telephone conversation # 13132, sound recording, LBJ and EVERETT DIRKSEN, 6/22/1968, 8:02AM (Item)
  • RESIGNATION OF CHIEF JUSTICE EARL WARREN AND APPOINTMENT OF ABE FORTAS AS HIS SUCCESSOR; LBJ DISCUSSES CANDIDATES TO REPLACE FORTAS: RAMSEY CLARK, CLARK CLIFFORD, THOMAS KUCHEL, RICHARD HUGHES, CYRUS VANCE, HOMER THORNBERRY, HENRY "JOE" FOWLER
Telephone conversation # 13133, sound recording, LBJ and MIKE MANSFIELD, 6/23/1968, 8:43AM? (Item)
  • DISCUSSION OF APPOINTMENT OF ABE FORTAS AS CHIEF JUSTICE OF SUPREME COURT AND OF CANDIDATES TO REPLACE FORTAS: ARTHUR GOLDBERG?, CLARK CLIFFORD, CYRUS VANCE; QUESTION OF HAVING TWO JEWS ON COURT; POSSIBILITY OF APPOINTING VANCE AS SECRETARY
Telephone conversation # 13201, sound recording, LBJ and RAMSEY CLARK, 7/1/1968, 4:26PM (Item)
  • SHORTHAND NOTES PRECEDE AND FOLLOW "FORTAS & THORNBERRY" ON SLIP ACCOMPANYING DICTABELT; RECORDING STARTS AFTER CONVERSATION HAS BEGUN
  • FBI, LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT RESPONSE TO SITUATION IN MERIDIAN, MISSISSIPPI; LBJ SAYS HE WANTS DOJ STATEMENT THAT FEDERAL GOVT WILL INVESTIGATE ATTACKS ON JEWS, NEGROES; NEED TO GET SUPPORT FOR SUPREME COURT NOMINATIONS OF ABE FORTAS, HOMER THORNBERRY
Telephone conversation # 13221, sound recording, LBJ and EARLE CLEMENTS, 7/30/1968, 2:31PM (Item)
  • "FORTAS" AND SHORTHAND NOTES WRITTEN ON SLIP ACCOMPANYING DICTABELT
  • CLEMENTS SAYS JUDICIARY COMMITTEE WILL NOT VOTE ON ABE FORTAS' NOMINATION AS SUPREME COURT CHIEF JUSTICE UNTIL AFTER LABOR DAY; JOHN MCCLELLAN'S OPPOSITION; LBJ ASKS ABOUT RICHARD RUSSELL'S VIEWS, DISCUSSES CRITICISM OF ALEXANDER LAWRENCE NOMINATION
Telephone conversation # 13505, sound recording, LBJ and RAMSEY CLARK, 10/1/1968, 11:05AM (Item)
  • "TRANSCRIBED-YB"; "FIRST SMALL BAND: CONTINUES THE 11:05 A.M. ["5:40 P." LINED THROUGH] CALL FROM ["TO" LINED THROUGH] THE ATTORNEY GENERAL."; "ON FORTAS MATTER"; CONTINUES FROM PREVIOUS RECORDING
  • LBJ CONTINUES TO DISCUSS POSSIBILITY OF APPOINTING TOM CLARK TO BE CHIEF JUSTICE OF SUPREME COURT IF SENATE FAILS TO CONFIRM ABE FORTAS' NOMINATION
Telephone conversation # 8415, sound recording, LBJ and MIKE MANSFIELD, 7/30/1965, 10:00AM (Item)
  • DISCUSSION OF POSTPONEMENT OF CONFIRMATION HEARING ON ABE FORTAS' APPOINTMENT TO SUPREME COURT BECAUSE OF CAROL AGGER'S OPPOSITION TO APPOINTMENT; LBJ REMINISCES ABOUT PERSUADING FRED VINSON'S WIFE TO AGREE TO VINSON'S SUPREME COURT APPOINTMENT
Telephone conversation # 8514, sound recording, LBJ and NICHOLAS KATZENBACH, 8/6/1965, 6:10PM (Item)
  • KATZENBACH'S APPEARANCE ON "ISSUES AND ANSWERS," QUESTION ABOUT FEUD BETWEEN LBJ, RFK; ABE FORTAS' TESTIMONY AT SENATE CONFIRMATION HEARING; IMMIGRATION BILL; APPOINTMENTS TO SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES CONTROL BOARD, COMPTROLLER GENERAL, CRIME COMMISSION
Telephone conversation # 8355, sound recording, LBJ and ARTHUR GOLDBERG, 7/19/1965, 8:28PM (Item)
  • LBJ TELLS GOLDBERG OF REACTION HE RECEIVED TO GOLDBERG AS CANDIDATE FOR UN AMBASSADOR; POSSIBLE ARAB REACTION TO JEWISH APPOINTMENT; ABE FORTAS' LETTER DECLINING SUPREME COURT APPOINTMENT; GOLDBERG ASKS LBJ TO CALL DIRKSEN BEFORE ANNOUNCING
Telephone conversation # 8382, sound recording, LBJ and RAMSEY CLARK, 7/23/1965, 4:25PM (Item)
  • CANDIDATES FOR SUPREME COURT VACANCY; AGE FACTOR; REGIONAL CONSIDERATIONS; JOHN PASTORE; WALTER SCHAEFER; OTTO KERNER; ED LEVI; THOMAS DEWEY; ROBERT ANDERSON; LEE RANKIN; HERBERT WECHSLER; SAM ERVIN; HARRY BLACKMUN; ABE FORTAS; ABA REVIEW
Telephone conversation # 9488, sound recording, LBJ and BILL MOYERS, 1/13/1966, 1:27AM (Item)
  • PRESS STORY THAT MOYERS MAY RESIGN AS WH PRESS SECRETARY; MOYERS', RICHARD GOODWIN'S WORK ON STATE OF THE UNION MESSAGE; ALLEGED WH DISSENSION; CONTRIBUTIONS OF ABE FORTAS, CLARK CLIFFORD TO SPEECH; MOYERS' ATTITUDE; MARVIN WATSON
Telephone conversation # 13140, sound recording, LBJ and EVERETT DIRKSEN, 6/25/1968, 4:53PM (Item)
  • DIRKSEN DISCUSSES MEETING ON SUPREME COURT APPOINTMENTS, PRECEDENTS ON RECESS APPOINTMENTS OF SUPREME COURT JUSTICES; LBJ SAYS HE WILL NAME ABE FORTAS AS CHIEF JUSTICE, HOMER THORNBERRY AS ASSOCIATE JUSTICE; DIRKSEN REPORTS ON MEETING WITH "JOHN