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Oral history transcript, Walter Judd, interview 1 (I), 1/17/1989, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • . We had the cards. And they know how to play their cards. It's just pitiful. That's why I say I'm glad that George Bush, today or yesterday got around to where some of us who had some experience out there were thirty years ago talking to [Andrei
Oral history transcript, Walter Judd, interview 3 (III), 1/17/89, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • . We had the cards. And they know how to play their cards. It's just pitiful. That's why I say I'm glad that George Bush, today or yesterday got around to where some of us who had some experience out there were thirty years ago talking to [Andrei