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  • Johnson, and I think to most of us at that point it had become clear that Bobby had it in mind to challenge Johnson for the nomination in 1968. I remember up at Camp David at some point, maybe late 1962 or maybe the spring of 1963, again we were swimming
  • in that way. Johnson seemed Generally with politicians the public and the private, you know, what you'd see on television and what you'd see face to face is more or less the same. I mean, Kennedy, Eisenhower and the rest that I've known were what you