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Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 43 (XLIII), 3/28/1989, by Michael L. Gillette
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- these senators what to say? C: Well, delicate, that's right, and also this was a tough bone to swallow. This was a very controversial piece of legislation. And the same thing from [Henry Hall] Wilson. The best (inaudible) House not in session is to persuade