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Oral history transcript, Joseph L. Rauh, Jr., interview 2 (II), 8/1/1969, by Paige E. Mulhollan (Item)
  • INTERVIEWEE: 'JOSEPH L. RAUH, JR. INTERVIEWER: PAIGE MULHOLLAN PLACE: Mr. Rauh's office in Washington, D.C. Tape 1 of 1 M: We had agreed this time to start with 1960, and perhaps a good way to do that would be to ask first was there any really overt
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  • The complex Democratic two-camp division in the 1959-1960 campaign; being confronted by Kennedy about his alliance; Rauh’s version of the Kennedy, Humphrey, Johnson party choice for President and Vice-President; Rauh’s disappointment over JFK’s
  • Rauh, Joseph L. (Joseph Louis), 1911-1992
  • Oral history transcript, Joseph L. Rauh, Jr., interview 2 (II), 8/1/1969, by Paige E. Mulhollan
  • Joseph L. Rauh, Jr.
Oral history transcript, Edward M. Kennedy, interview 1 (I), 10/30/69, by by Joe B. Frantz (Item)
  • , 1969 INTERVIEWEE: EDWARD M. KENNEDY INTERVIEWER: Joe B. Frantz PLACE: Majority Whip Office, Capitol Building, Washington, D.C. Tape 1 of 1, Side 1 F: Senator, very briefly, set the scene for us; when you came to the Senate, what you did
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  • Joseph Kennedy's opinion of LBJ; John F. Kennedy considering LBJ as a vice presidential running mate; Edward Kennedy's and LBJ's roles in the 1960 presidential campaign; Claude Hooten's 1962 congressional campaign; the presidential campaign
  • Oral history transcript, Edward M. Kennedy, interview 1 (I), 10/30/69, by by Joe B. Frantz
  • Edward M. Kennedy
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 61 (LXI), 1/19/1990, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • , 1990 INTERVIEWEE: JOSEPH A. CALIFANO, JR., with comments by Marcel Bryar INTERVIEWER: Michael L. Gillette PLACE: Mr. Califano's office, Washington, D.C. Tape 1 of 1, Side 1 C: As we came out of the Congress, we had the Senate bill which
  • See all online interviews with Joseph A. Califano
  • Califano, Joseph A., 1931-
  • Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 61 (LXI), 1/19/1990, by Michael L. Gillette
  • Joseph A. Califano
Oral history transcript, Edward Joseph, interview 1 (I), 8/27/1971, by Joe B. Frantz (Item)
  • INTERVIEWEE: EDWARD JOSEPH INTERVIE~JER: JOE B. FRANTZ PLACE: t~r. Joseph's office, Austin, Texas Tape 1 of 2 F: We'll make this informal, Eddie. Are you an Austin boy? J: Yes, sir, I was born and raised in Austin. F: That's what I thought. J
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  • Joseph, Edward
  • Oral history transcript, Edward Joseph, interview 1 (I), 8/27/1971, by Joe B. Frantz
  • Edward Joseph
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Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 37 (XXXVII), 11/14/1988, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • 14, 1988 INTERVIEWEE: JOSEPH A. CALIFANO, JR. INTERVIEWER: Michael L. Gillette PLACE: Mr. Califano's office, Washington, D.C. Tape 1 of 1, Side 1 G: Well why don't you start with a general introduction of how this particular merger reflected
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  • Califano, Joseph A., 1931-
  • Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 37 (XXXVII), 11/14/1988, by Michael L. Gillette
  • Joseph A. Califano
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 38 (XXXVIII), 11/15/1988, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • 15, 1988 INTERVIEWEE: JOSEPH A. CALIFANO, JR. INTERVIEWER: Michael L. Gillette PLACE: Mr. Califano's office, Washington, D.C. Tape 1 of 1, Side 1 G: You sent the President a memo on November 21 [1966] outlining Stuart Saunders' claims
  • See all online interviews with Joseph A. Califano
  • Califano, Joseph A., 1931-
  • Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 38 (XXXVIII), 11/15/1988, by Michael L. Gillette
  • Joseph A. Califano
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 29 (XXIX), 5/16/1988, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • INTERVIEWEE: JOSEPH CALIFANO, JR. INTERVIEWER: Michael L. Gillette PLACE: Mr. Califano's office in Washington, D.C. Tape 1 of 1, Side 1 G: Press indicates that you'd received no advanced word from Bethlehem [Steel Corporation] regarding their five
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  • Califano, Joseph A., 1931-
  • Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 29 (XXIX), 5/16/1988, by Michael L. Gillette
  • Joseph A. Califano
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 31 (XXXI), 7/11/1988, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • , 1988 INTERVIEWEE: JOSEPH A. CALIFANO, JR., with comments by Marcel Bryar INTERVIEWER: Michael Gillette PLACE: Mr. Califano's office, Washington, D.C. Tape 1 of 1, Side 1 G: On the topic of poverty let's start from your perspective in the Defense
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  • Califano, Joseph A., 1931-
  • Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 31 (XXXI), 7/11/1988, by Michael L. Gillette
  • Joseph A. Califano
Oral history transcript, Charles L. Bartlett, interview 1 (I), 5/6/1969, by Dorothy Pierce (McSweeny) (Item)
  • I have basically the correct information? B: Basically you are right. M: Do you have any corrections? B: No, not one. M: Mr. B a r t l e t , , have you ever participated in any similar oral history project? B: Yes, on John Kennedy
  • Kennedy, Robert F., 1925-1968
  • Outline of journalistic career; LBJ's unique handling of press during both Senate and White House years; Kennedy and Johnson humor; Jacqueline Kennedy's appreciation of LBJ; LBJ's swearing-in ceremony in Dallas; Kennedys thoughts of death and LBJ's
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 25 (XXV), 3/17/1988, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • , 1988 INTERVIEWEE: JOSEPH A. CALIFANO, JR. INTERVIEWER: Michael L. Gillette PLACE: Mr. Califano's office, Washington, D.C. Tape 1 of 1, Side 1 G: Subversive Activities Control Board. C: The decisions of the Supreme Court and changing times
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  • Califano, Joseph A., 1931-
  • Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 25 (XXV), 3/17/1988, by Michael L. Gillette
  • Joseph A. Califano
Oral history transcript, Thomas P. O'Neill, Jr., interview 1 (I), 1/28/1976, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • methods, the long arm of Joseph Kennedy, the untold wealth that they have, their ability to organize, their ability to move, their determination, and their hard work . They are going to out- work, out-spend, out-maneuver everybody else along the line
  • 1960 election; the Kennedys; relationship with LBJ; Massachusetts politics; Vietnam War; comparison of JFK and LBJ; Education bill; LBJ's persuasive ability
Oral history transcript, Joseph Alsop, interview 1 (I), 5/28/1969, by Paige E. Mulhollan (Item)
  • LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] INTERVIEWEE: JOSEPH ALSOP INTERVIEWER: PAIGE E. MULHOLLAN More on LBJ Library oral histories: http
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  • Alsop, Joseph, 1910-
  • Oral history transcript, Joseph Alsop, interview 1 (I), 5/28/1969, by Paige E. Mulhollan
  • Joseph Alsop
Oral history transcript, John A. Schnittker, interview 2 (II), 5/18/1989, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • distribution program for the general public when the Kennedy-Johnson period began. There was also the school lunch program, but that was another classification. One of the earliest presidential or secretarial orders reestablished the Food Stamp Program
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 2 (II), 5/27/1969, by Joe B. Frantz and Paige E. Mulhollan (Item)
  • INTERVIEWEE: JOSEPH A. CALIFANO, JR. INTERVIEWER: Joe B. Frantz PLACE: Mr. Califano’s office, Washington, D.C. Tape 1 of 1 F: I suppose at the outset we may as well dispense with formalities and be first name on this. Tell us very briefly how you came
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  • Califano, Joseph A., 1931-
  • Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 2 (II), 5/27/1969, by Joe B. Frantz and Paige E. Mulhollan
  • Joseph A. Califano
Oral history transcript, Frank F. Mankiewicz, interview 3 (III), 5/5/1969, by Stephen Goodell (Item)
  • known, that nothing was coming out of our office. columnist, a pro~war And I Temember a.ferocious argument with one columnist---Joseph Alsop--who wrote about it and said it was coming from a source close to Robert Kennedy. ~t, and he said it was me
Oral history transcript, Arthur Krock, interview 1 (I), 11/21/1968, by T.H. Baker (Item)
  • , which he failed to do. B: I know you were close to the Kennedy family, to Joseph Kennedy and to Jack Kennedy, too. Did you, by any chance, ever suggest to the Kennedy family that perhaps 1960 was not Jack Kennedy's year, for him to step aside and wait
  • Kennedy, Robert F., 1925-1968
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Beirne, interview 1 (I), 3/4/1969, by T.H. Baker (Item)
  • ORAL HISTORY COLLECTION Joseph A . Beirne Narrator Address Biographical information : labor union ofcl . ; b . Jersey City, Feb . 16, 1911 ; evening student Hudson College of St . Peter, Jersey City, 1933-37, N .Y .U ., 1937-39 ; Utilities
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  • Beirne, Joseph A.
  • Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Beirne, interview 1 (I), 3/4/1969, by T.H. Baker
  • Joseph A. Beirne
Oral history transcript, Joseph D. Keenan, interview 1 (I), 7/25/1969, by David G. McComb (Item)
  • INTERVIEWEE: JOSEPH KEENAN INTERVIEWER: DAVID McCOMB PLACE: Washington, D.C. office, 1200 15th~ N.!.I/. Tape 1 of 1 M: This is an interview with Mr. Joseph Keenan, who is the secretary of the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers. I am
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  • Keenan, Joseph D. (Joseph Daniel), 1896-1984
  • Oral history transcript, Joseph D. Keenan, interview 1 (I), 7/25/1969, by David G. McComb
  • Joseph D. Keenan
Oral history transcript, Drew Pearson, interview 1 (I), 4/10/1969, by Joe B. Frantz (Item)
  • it was 1950--he was then I think Minority Leader— F: He may have been from 1950. I'd have to check that fact. P: I went in to see him and told him that Senator Joseph McCarthy of Wisconsin was going to deliver a speech attacking me the next day, calling me
  • relationship with LBJ in the early 1950s; Joseph McCarthy attack; investigation of McCarthy’s finances; reconciliations with LBJ; 1957 Civil Rights Act; supported LBJ for President in 1960; JFK’s selection of LBJ excellent; Kennedy brothers adept at managing
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 48 (XLVIII), 6/14/1989, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • , 1989 INTERVIEWEE: JOSEPH A. CALIFANO, JR., with comments by Marcel Bryar INTERVIEWER: Michael L. Gillette PLACE: Mr. Califano's office, Washington, D.C. Tape 1 of 1, Side 1 C: In the time of the riots in Washington for [Martin Luther] King [Jr
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  • Califano, Joseph A., 1931-
  • Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 48 (XLVIII), 6/14/1989, by Michael L. Gillette
  • Joseph A. Califano
Oral history transcript, Edmund Gerald (Pat) Brown, interview 1 (I), 2/20/1969, by Joe B. Frantz (Item)
  • . Both my grandfather, Joseph Brown, and his wife, Bridget Burk Brown . They were both born in the town of Thurles in County Tipperary in Ireland . far as we can find out, about 1860 . They came to California in, so My father was born in 1870, and he
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 52 (LII), 8/15/1989, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • , 1989 INTERVIEWEE: JOSEPH A. CALIFANO, JR. INTERVIEWER: Michael L. Gillette PLACE: Mr. Califano's office, Washington, D.C. Tape 1 of 1, Side 1 G: In the 1966 Minimum Wage Bill it appears that one of the first tasks-(Interruption) --it appears
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  • Califano, Joseph A., 1931-
  • Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 52 (LII), 8/15/1989, by Michael L. Gillette
  • Joseph A. Califano
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 35 (XXXV), 9/20/1988, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • -- 14 I noticed something about Bobby Kennedy and it reminds me of something. We came back to Washington. I guess we set it up the day before, and the first order of business is a meeting on the airline strike at eight-thirty in the morning. And I notice
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  • Califano, Joseph A., 1931-
  • Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 35 (XXXV), 9/20/1988, by Michael L. Gillette
  • Joseph A. Califano
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 60 (LX), 1/17/1990, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • , 1990 INTERVIEWEE: JOSEPH A. CALIFANO, JR., with comments by Marcel Bryar INTERVIEWER: Michael L. Gillette PLACE: Mr. Califano's office, Washington, D.C. Tape 1 of 2, Side 1 C: I sent the President the cable of April 24, 1967, at 9:45 p.m
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  • Califano, Joseph A., 1931-
  • Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 60 (LX), 1/17/1990, by Michael L. Gillette
  • Joseph A. Califano
Oral history transcript, Lyndon B. Johnson, 8/19/1969, by Harry Middleton (Item)
  • any better there by 1963. Kennedy thought our election was in danger. I knew it was. - - - - · - ~ - - - - - - ·--·-·--· ----- LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories
Oral history transcript, Joseph M. Barr, interview 1 (I), 6/10/1969, by Paige E. Mulhollan (Item)
  • LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] INTER VIEWEE: JOSEPH BARR (Mayor) INTERVIEWER: PAIGE MULHOLLAN More on LBJ Library oral histories: http
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  • Barr, Joseph M.
  • Oral history transcript, Joseph M. Barr, interview 1 (I), 6/10/1969, by Paige E. Mulhollan
  • Joseph M. Barr
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 21 (XXI), 2/22/1988, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • , 1988 INTERVIEWEE: JOSEPH A. CALIFANO, JR. INTERVIEWER: Michael L. Gillette PLACE: Mr. Califano's office, Washington, D.C. Tape 1 of 1, Side 1 G: Let me ask you to discuss the whole question of government contracts and President Johnson's
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  • Califano, Joseph A., 1931-
  • Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 21 (XXI), 2/22/1988, by Michael L. Gillette
  • Joseph A. Califano
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 36 (XXXVI), 9/21/1988, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • for full hearings to delay things. [Joseph] Clark backed Morse as he thought Javits would, but Bobby Kennedy and Clark and Pell were joining the Republicans and demanding to know where does LBJ stand on this thing. This must be Morse reporting what
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  • Califano, Joseph A., 1931-
  • Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 36 (XXXVI), 9/21/1988, by Michael L. Gillette
  • Joseph A. Califano
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 20 (XX), 1/28/1988, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • , 1988 INTERVIEWEE: JOSEPH A. CALIFANO, JR. INTERVIEWER: Michael L. Gillette PLACE: Mr. Califano's office, Washington, D.C. Tape 1 of 1, Side 1 C: There's a final version of this memo, which I'd love to have. G: Okay, I'll get it. C: Okay? G
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  • Califano, Joseph A., 1931-
  • Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 20 (XX), 1/28/1988, by Michael L. Gillette
  • Joseph A. Califano
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 13 (XIII), 11/17/1987, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • , 1987 INTERVIEWEE: JOSEPH A. CALIFANO, JR. INTERVIEWER: Michael L. Gillette PLACE: Mr. Califano's office, Washington, D.C. Tape 1 of 1, Side 1 C: Before the aluminum price increase in September [1965] as part of the annual budget process, I
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  • Califano, Joseph A., 1931-
  • Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 13 (XIII), 11/17/1987, by Michael L. Gillette
  • Joseph A. Califano
Oral history transcript, Leslie Carpenter, interview 1 (I), 2/6/1969, by Joe B. Frantz (Item)
  • of It was the only Democratic paper in Boston, and everyone thought that Joseph P. Kennedy--Jack Kennedy's father--was going to buy it. So every day I thought that this young Congressman was going to be my publisher's son tomorrow. So necessarily I paid a lot
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 27 (XXVII), 4/19/1988, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • , 1988 INTERVIEWEE: JOSEPH A. CALIFANO, JR. INTERVIEWER: Michael L. Gillette PLACE: Mr. Califano's office, Washington, D.C. Tape 1 of 1, Side 1 C: --I don't really know, unless you've got specific stuff. I think that's inaccurate. G: Okay
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  • Califano, Joseph A., 1931-
  • Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 27 (XXVII), 4/19/1988, by Michael L. Gillette
  • Joseph A. Califano
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Pechman, interview 1 (I), 3/19/1969, by David G. McComb (Item)
  • LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] INTERVIEWEE: DR. JOSEPH A. PECHMAN INTERVIEWER: DAVID G. Mc COMB More on LBJ Library oral histories: http
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  • Pechman, Joseph A.
  • Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Pechman, interview 1 (I), 3/19/1969, by David G. McComb
  • Joseph A. Pechman
Oral history transcript, John W. Macy, interview 2 (II), 4/25/1969, by David G. McComb (Item)
  • , Mr. Joseph Dodge, whom I had known at the Pentagon through his assistance to the Army in connection with the Japanese and Korean financial matters. As a result of that, we had been professionally associated. He called me, asked me to come over
  • The role of Civil Service Comission in loyalty and security program; his work as president of Wesleyan College; becoming Chairman of the Civil Service Commission in the Kennedy administration, 1961; working with Vice-President Johnson on equal
Oral history transcript, Joseph W. Barr, interview 2 (II), 1/16/1970, by Joe B. Frantz (Item)
  • LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] INTERVIEWEE: JOSEPH BARR (Tape #2) INTERVIEWER: JOE B. FRANTZ More on LBJ Library oral histories: http
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  • Biographical information; House Banking and Currency Commission; Sam Rayburn; Inter-American Bank; International Development Association; Hoover Commission; campaigns for Congress; Kennedy appointment to the Treasury; Chairman of the FDIC; May 1965
  • Barr, Joseph Walker, 1918-1996
  • Oral history transcript, Joseph W. Barr, interview 2 (II), 1/16/1970, by Joe B. Frantz
  • Joseph W. Barr
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 12 (XII), 10/29/1987, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • , 1987 INTERVIEWEE: JOSEPH A. CALIFANO, JR. INTERVIEWER: Michael L. Gillette PLACE: Mr. Califano's office, Washington, D. C. Tape 1 of 1, Side 1 G: [It is possible] that Lee White and Harry McPherson would have more insights on [Daniel Patrick
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  • Califano, Joseph A., 1931-
  • Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 12 (XII), 10/29/1987, by Michael L. Gillette
  • Joseph A. Califano
Oral history transcript, Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, interview 1 (I), 1/11/1974, by Joe B. Frantz (Item)
  • : January 11, 1974 INTERVIEWEE : MRS . JACQUELINE KENNEDY ONASSIS INTERVIEWER : JOE B . FRANTZ PLACE : Her Manhattan apartment in New York City Tape 1 of 2 First part of tape missing (35 feet) F: Let's continue, then, our broken interview
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  • Kennedy, Robert F., 1925-1968
  • ; JFK's staff vs. LBJ's staff; Kennedy Rose Garden; William Manchester's book; not voting in the 1964 election; LBJ's campaigning for RFK's Senate campaign
  • Onassis, Jacqueline Kennedy, 1929-1994
  • Oral history transcript, Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, interview 1 (I), 1/11/1974, by Joe B. Frantz
  • Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis
Oral history transcript, Kermit Gordon, interview 1 (I), 12/16/1968, by David G. McComb (Item)
  • : The origins are rather dim in my mind. The key figure I remember was Senator Joseph O'Mahoney of Wyoming who was one of the leaders in that period of the group in the Senate that was concerned about what they thought was the growing concentration of American
Oral history transcript, Joseph W. Barr, interview 1 (I), 8/25/1969, by Joe B. Frantz (Item)
  • LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] INTERVIEWEE: JOSEPH BARR (Ta f'e ... I) INTERVIEWER: JOE B. FRANTZ More on LBJ Library oral histories: http
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  • Biographical information; House Banking and Currency Commission; Sam Rayburn; Inter-American Bank; International Development Association; Hoover Commission; campaigns for Congress; Kennedy appointment to the Treasury; Chairman of the FDIC; May 1965
  • Barr, Joseph Walker, 1918-1996
  • Oral history transcript, Joseph W. Barr, interview 1 (I), 8/25/1969, by Joe B. Frantz
  • Joseph W. Barr
Oral history transcript, Stewart J.O. Alsop, interview 1 (I), 7/15/1969, by Paige E. Mulhollan (Item)
  • , and you were a longtime syndicated columnist with your brother Joseph, whom I also interviewed, incidentally, and later with the Saturday Evening Post, and now with Newsweek regularly. A: That's right M: And the author of The Center, which appeared