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  • . McConnell said if we were to stop the bombing, now is the time to do it. THE PRESIDENT: If they used the week badly it could hurt us. GENERAL WHEELER: I'm more concerned about the effect on the ARYN. They have been doing well. They will sit on their hands
  • no longer do the job we set out to do in the time we have left and we must begin to take steps to disengage. That view was shared by: George Ball Arthur Dean Cy Vance Douglas Dillon and myself (McGeorgc Bundy) We do think we should do everything possible
  • ' - ;;~-.ft Stop at 11: 00 a. m. - announced. Let's stop it so I can announce at 7 today or at 7 tomorrow. General Wheeler: We can stop it at 0800 Saigon time or 7: 00 p. m. tomorrow. There is nothing to do. Clark Clifford: Do we have information about
  • conventional attacks for the first time. Clark Clifford: In his cable, General Westmoreland also points out that it is national policy to keep the enemy from seizing and holding the two northerr. provinces. Hasn't that been the situation all along? General
  • it was not prudent from a military standpoint for them to be there. General Wheeler: That is correct, Mr. President. I have General Brown sorting out all the facts. There are several reasons why no planes were sent. This includes the location .of the ship, the time
  • ? . NARA, Date (;. -.:;J.1)_!'1 ct=l? , MEETING NOTES COPYRIGHTED Publication Requir" Permiuion of Copyri_ght Hofdw: W. Thomas Johnson Secretary Clifford: I thought final clearance with Thieu was mere formality. I thought we said -- now, here's the time
  • to be given by the President on the Pueblo and Vietnam developments. Secretary Rusk: Some parts of the speech are unnecessary. I do not think it should be given at this time. Extending tours of duty in Vietnam could have a serious effect on the morale
  • Westmoreland over the phone and received a number of cables from him. Westmoreland reported the following: - - The enemy apparently will start new attacks on the 10th. St.'1.\f\~E SET That is tonight our time. This is based on communications intelligence
  • military, diplomatic and political problems in that part of the world. However, the Vice President has had a chance to go and spend some time in the area. -- Since the Honolulu Conference 18 months ago there have been five elections in Vietnam
  • a letter from the President asking for more time. The President approved the dispatch of the letter to Vance. Secretary Rusk said the Greeks told the Cypriots that the Turks are bluffing .. The President said it also appears that the Russians want to see
  • additional cuts. Congressman Pollock: Mr. President, I want to thank you very deeply for your help in meeting the emergency needs of my people in Alaska. All of the agencies of government and you have been so helpful in our time of need. The President: I am
  • : territorial waters. We are almost certain we did not violate SECRETARY RUSK: We need to take more time on this. GENERAL TAYLOR: Would the fear of military reprisal make the North Koreans hold the men longer? SECRETARY RUSK: They know enough to assume we do
  • in the Legislative Branch. I need your cooperation. First we need to agree on t.li.e time the Congress will take off this year, especially the holidays. Congressman Ford: The Speaker has not announced it but I think he will make the announcement on holidays tomorrow
  • is that there was no unusual North Korean activity during the ten day period to indicate that at any time the ship strayed into territorial waters. I do not believe that it did. The President: Ambassador Goldberg said he had a position report two days before which
  • advocate" questions: How much time do we use up by our actions at the U. N.? Do we have control of the time situation if we get involved in U. N. debate? What is the danger if we go to the U. N. for some sort of humiliation? (What is the possibility
  • this was the first time the North Koreans knew that the ship would be in t..'1e area. Three thi.'1.gs are clear: 1. It was a conscious effort to provoke a response O!" a lack of response. 2. The Soviets knew of it in advance. 3. T!ie North Koreans have
  • of the ship. We must not do anything which would tie our hands in the United Nations. Ambassador Goldberg: Going to the Security Council will give us time. The re is a danger of getting our hands tied. The South Koreanb also are sensitive to the North Koreans
  • talking about either substance of stopping or row we get together for talks. The odds are against talks at this time. I think there is a poss_ibility, although not a very good one. The chances of getting Vietnam resolved before November, 1968, 02pends
  • ;;\ __,~-.~~-\~;;1~-~-~=g~ -2­ For some weeks the Pueblo has been stationed off North Korea. There have been incidents over the DMZ. In 1966 the number of incidents were 57. In 1968 they were 590. This is a ten-times increase in one year. This is a planned campaign
  • on these questions in conjunction with the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Walt Rostow: That is correct. Clark Clifford: Paul Nitze and I started to work on this Friday night. As you could understand, with the time pressure we placed upon ourselves there still may need
  • separate occasions did they actually fire on us. up in the DMZ wouldn't be good at this time. To build We first went in to find prisoners. To increase the level of the forces sent in would heighten the level. They'll move them in. This is a bad
  • a U. N. speech at this time. ~ I I I ' Th~ President read a tally sheet on votes in conunittee compiled by Senator Mansfield related to the Asian Development Bank. Senator Mansfield said Senator Fulbright has asked the Department of State to handle
  • want you to consider and get answers to me. Those questions are: 1. Why is it necessary to call up reserve units at this time? a. To be ready for further reinforcement of Vietnam? b. To be ready for other contingencies outside Vietnam? c
  • · and military risks to bombing halt. We have been exploring bombing limitations in North, leaving open bombing above the DMZ, It also would look bad to segments here at home to have bombing halt at same time as calling up reserves, We are being divided
  • delay the more dangerous it is for us, for the South Vietnamese. Every moment will be agony for us until we get the GVN in the talks. Walt Rostow: A report that there are no shells across the DMZ will be more important than the timing of the talks
  • was at wit~ end on how to get people to report the war the way it is. He said he took Johnny Apple of the New York Times with him on one all-day excursion. He said they got out of the chopper at one RF post, the re was a province chief and American adviser
  • militarily. It would not be in Czech interests or ours. The ''Cold War'' is not over. Our relations with Soviets are in transition. We would go anywhere at anytime to further interests of peace. We have thought at times we have made Progress. We have
  • about the war. Two years is a long time. 10, 000 men have been killed and 10, 000 have been seriously wounded. 11 11 Representative Sam Gibbons (6th District, Florida) said it's the $7. 4 billion tax bill that worries him. He said there are serious
  • resolution of Vietnam. Unfortunately , it is my conclusion, and that of all of my principal advisers, that a total cessation of bombing at this time would not in fact lead to TOP SECRET SERVICE SET i~l!l!T!Me t-lOTES COPVRIGJ~+ED ?.walica•i 0 0 Requires
  • and regrouping in our country. Congress must act so people can see something tangible. BISHOP GEORGE BABER: John Dunn said that in the worst times you can do the best things. The fine things we do the more impressive our position will be. Should go on the air
  • . Secretary Rusk: Abrams expresses considerable confidence. But if Hanoi demands new government in Saigon it might appeal to the New York Times. We will reject it. We do not want a 'give away 11 schedule. George Christian: They will cooperate for a period
  • . You've stopped bombing and want to get talks started. 20 days have gone by. I think time is running out. We have exactly 2 months left today. I would meet on Friday of next week. Ii the GVN come, a wide range of talks can take place. If they don't, we can
  • fired 66 times There have been 60 attacks of population centers. Nine in the last 24 hours. Three major attacks. There have been 80 hostile reactions to reconnaissance planes. Two reconnaissance planes and one escort plane have been shot down
  • are at a time when this could get in the way of NPT. It is therefore a decision between "Plowshare'' vs. the test ban treaty. The treaty requires you to keep the debris from these tests at home. THE PRESIDENT: The question is would Cabriolet violate the treaty
  • coast of Cyprus near Kyrenia., and to put three divisions a.shore in two or three weeks. He believed that Turkey could control the Island in that time. ln sumni.ary, General Wheeler said that, if shootings started, the war would probably begin with Turk
  • with the President without my presence. If you get them down here four or five at a time, that is okay. The President: I would feel better if you were here anyway. Clark Clifford: The times are too serious and the public too concerned for a public feud between
  • to determine what our national interest is. It is one country invading another Communist country. There is danger in aggression anywhere. It is aggression. We need to give immediate thought to timing of meeting with Soviets. The agenda is more full now than
  • Times story by Rick Smith and Marvin Kalb at 8:00 a. m. today may be put together. The President: Tell Bunker to get Thieu moving on telling his people now. Thieu must tell Ky, Prime Minister, and Defense Minister and draft a statement. The President
  • folde1. W. TAeMat Jgbn;on - 2There is a necessary preoccupation of our national leadership with this problem. At the same time there is much anxiety and dismay in America over the 'Wlr. Our conviction is that we should contract our operations
  • is very probable. We have 40 odd aircraft in Japan, less than one hour and twenty minutes flying time. If they had flown into the area, they could have been destroyed by a much more superior North Korean air force and could have destroyed our ship along