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Folder, "June 4, 1968 - 1:45 p.m. President's Tuesday Luncheon," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 3 (Item)

Abrams and Ambassado:i:?er called on Ky. He was in a black mood. He talked of resigning e. men lil'ei19g shot up by our helicopter. We have a potential problem with Ky and General Tha•g. Killing his allies has put him very down in the dumps. It is a very

Folder, "July 12, 1967 - 1:05 p.m. Meeting to hear McNamara report on trip to Vietnam," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 1 (Item)

. operations had been reduced from 800 on his last trip to 30-40 on this trip •. i . On the political front, the Secretary reported: ·- The "greate_st . ~angertt I I is facing us. t A possible split betwee·n Ky and Thieu. 1· i The r.e is "no· real

Folder, "July 25, 1967 - 2:47 p.m. Tuesday lunch - Rusk, McNamara, Rostow, Christian," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 1 (Item)

would be asked to specify which countries it would eliminate if the re is a cut back in foreign assistance funds. o Secretary Rusk said that Senator McClellan planned an investigation of corruption in Vietnamo "Ky intimate s will be invol ved . 11

Folder, "[NSC Meeting on] Vietnam, 8/5/1965, Volume 3, Tab 36" National Security Council Meetings Files, NSF, Box 2 (Item)

do agr ee with Vietnam on war aims , even though General Ky may state, for domestic consumption, that he wants to invade the North. The Saigon Government accepts the principles of th e Geneva Accords and is not going to march North. Viet Cong a ttacks

Folder, "April 9, 1968 - 8 a.m. Camp David meeting with Rusk, Clifford, Wheeler, Bunker staff," Meeting Notes Files, Box 2 (Item)

province chiefs and will be putting in more, increased taxes by decree and put tax bill to the assembly, ten draft laws on various subjects, closed black market and bars and nightclubs. He and Ky are working together better. On April 2 their joint press

Folder, "November 8, 1967 - 10:03 a.m. National Security Council," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 1 (Item)

handwriting. 5. There are some differences between Ky and Thieu, but Ky told me that he will do his best to cooperate. 6. The South Vietnamese Army is not a superior force, but General Abrams told me there has been much improvement in the ARYN. There were

Folder, "[January 11, 1966 - 1:05 p.m. Meeting with Foreign Policy Advisors on David Bell's Return]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 1 (Item)

Authority who is good man. Through the coming year need to take series of steps which will improve the port. Can't be done now because of administrative set up. Recommedd Ky establish a single-headed Port Authority - - put tough guy in charge. Put high

Folder, "May 25, 1968 - 1:54 p.m. President's meeting with Foreign Policy Advisers," Meeting Notes Files, Box 3 (Item)

to divide off Ky. Secretary Rusk: He's taking wait and see attitude. Director Helms: It is dangerous - Ky keeping his generals close to see if Thieu goes too far. The President: Should Ky come here with Thieu? about it. Ask Bunker to think Secretary Rusk

Folder, "August 5, 1967 - 1:49 p.m. Clifford, Taylor, Rusk, Nitze, Ball, Rostow, McPherson, Christian," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 1 (Item)

counts show. It was agreed that the infiltration rate give the most fuzzy figures. retary Nitze said we just do not know what the precise figures are. Sec Mr. Clifford made the following points: (1) There were valuable visits with Ky and Thieu. (2

Folder, "November 8, 1967 - 9:42 a.m. Vice President and Walt Rostow," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 1 (Item)

not deserve U.S. support. The Vice President said that Thieu and Ky have lowered the draft age and have established a very good blueprint for progress. co:NFIDi:NTTAL M!E ilNG f~OfES COPYAIQMfEO a.,~li1.•tiert A•cr"ic°' .. SERVICE SET P.,tm11u10A ef

Folder, "[Briefing Papers for National Security Council Meeting, May 10, 1966]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 1 (Item)

toward representative government, etc.; {f) encourage unity of Directorate and promote reconciliation between Generals Ky and Thi; (g) encourage candidate qualification language that would disqualify "agents of a foreign power 11 or other terms rather

Folder, "[July-August 1967 Meetings with Correspondents]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 3 (Item)

asked for the President 1 s . views of comments on the Hill that were critical of the Thieu-Ky attitude toward the South Vietnam elections. The President said some mistakes were being made, but that we might be surprised there were not more. Even in our

Folder, "[NSC Meeting on] Vice President Reports on his Vietnam Trip, 11/8/1967, Volume 4, Tab 60," National Security Council Meetings Files, NSF, Box 2 (Item)

Vietnam war . 2. During conve r sations with both Thieu and Ky, he emphasized the importan ce of the relationship of these two leaders to each other and to the leg islature. 3 . The inaugural speech of Thieu was his own, not ghost written. Thieu i s

Folder, "[January 22, 1966 - 12:00 noon Meeting with Foreign Policy Advisors on Resumption of Bombing]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 1 (Item)

that is the case, why don't we sit down with Ky and tell him. McNamara: Because it would leak. We haven't told the U.S. people. Rusk: I think we'll see a drop in morale if we don't resume. Ky told me we talk about their country without telling them

Folder, "[September 5, 1967 - 1:05 p.m. Tuesday Luncheon]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 2 (Item)

. The President said he hopes they (Thieu and Ky) show action even though all the election returns are not in yet and even though they have not been inaugurated. The President said "instead of Dzu taking the headlines, Thieu and Ky should fill the news

Folder, "June 22, 1968 - 8:45 a.m. Meeting with Foreign Policy Advisors," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 3 (Item)

are interested in what Secretary Rusk has to aay. Why are you ao worr'ied al:out Saigon. The President: There ii instability between Ky and Thieu. He doesn't like sitting in the back row after all of the command positions he has held. CIA Director Helms

Folder, "Walt Rostow, Vol. 9, July 16-31 1966 [2 of 3]," Memos to the President, NSF, Box 9 (Item)

Folder, "October 5, 1967 - 6:55 p.m. McNamara, Rusk, Rostow," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 1 (Item)

in Vietnam this year. We should talk about Honolulu when we asked them to draft a constitution; we should talk about Manila, when we asked them to elect a President; we should talk about Guam, when Ky and Thieu gave us their constitution; we should talk about

Folder, "February 28, 1968 - 8:35 a.m. Gen. Wheeler"s trip to Vietnam discussion with Foreign Policy Advisors," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 2 (Item)

of the senior U.S. commanders. I also talked with Ambassador Bunker, President Thieu and Vice President Ky. There were a number of factors which surprised me. I certainly learned things I did not know before: The TET attack was very powerful and nationwideo

Folder, "May 14, 1968 - 1:10 p.m. Tuesday lunch with Foreign Policy Advisors," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 3 (Item)

. The President: Are you concerned about Thieu's problem in forming a new cabinet. Secretary Rusk: Yes, but Ky will go along if there are no changes in Generals. Walt Rostow: The "deal" is that Ky will be main negotiator in "your side, our side" situation. CIA

Folder, "October 29, 1968 - 1 p.m. Tuesday luncheon with Foreign Policy Advisors," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

Vietnam from being overrun. We have invested 29, 000 dead and $75 billion. We must be careful not to flush this down the drain. But we do have the right to expect cooperation from South Vietnam. Thieu and Ky agreed to this. Bunker said they needed more

Folder, "[February 24, 1966 Meeting with Congressional Leaders]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 1 (Item)

, it isn't the best place for R. C. {presum ~bly Red China) either. ·westrnoreland is great soldier. Backed by high caliber civilian team. Thie u a ~d Ky are men of high l~ adership. Don't know how long th~y'll survive. Thes e r:ie n a re t r ying to d o wha

Folder, "Kentucky Trip – May 21, 1964 – Mrs. Johnson [Clippings]," White House Social Files, Liz Carpenter Subject Files, Box 5 (Item)

to Was hington to report they found ·'deplorable poverty·• among te nants and s harecroppers there. 'Would Have Been Retrained' Washington The White Auocl•t•d Pr•u H

Folder, "October 29, 1968 - 2:30 a.m. Meeting with the President's Foreign Policy Advisors," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

have passed it. They are at How much trouble is the President having? General Abrams: He is stronger. to him. The Prime Minister is a great boost The President: Is Ky a threat, a dangerous threat? General Abrams: He's not helpful. Thieu

Folder, "McGeorge Bundy, Vol. 15, September 23 - October 14, 1965 [2 of 2]," Memos to the President, NSF, Box 5 (Item)

the appointment of a Minister of Rural Construction (pacification) by Prime Minister Ky - - at which time we are prepared to move in. 7. After the Viet Cong has been overcome by force, both in its large and small grouping, there must be a certain degree

Folder, "[December 21, 1965 Meeting with Foreign Policy Advisors]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 1 (Item)

in Saigon is signed on -- they are getting to Ky now. This evening the Vietnamese - will be making a statement. It's a good statement. Having urged this on them, I wouldn't want to take the play away from them. I can't say anything tomorrow. If we have

Folder, "[NSC Meeting on] Vietnam, 5/10/1966, Volume 3, Tab 39," National Security Council Meetings Files, NSF, Box 2 (Item)

, dissent and criticize. We want results. It is acceptable that we r efe re e some of the fights between General Ky and others in the Saigon government. TOP SECRET/SENSITIVE Gt'.RVtCE Sff •• .!fOP SEGRET/SEN§ITIY.$---- -3 Robert Komer : There ar e

Folder, "United Kingdom - WWR talks with Wilson, Briefing Book, Feb-67," Country Files, NSF, Box 216 (Item)

1. Political Outlook VIET-NAM Authority STATE letter MAY2 5 ~~~~ By k(i , NARS, Date 8 - ;;>.1>- 71 The Ky Government, which has now been in office almost 20 months, has perceptibly gained in self-assurance and in the maturity with which

Folder, "[November 11, 1968 - 3:00 p.m. Meeting with Foreign Policy Advisors and President-Elect Nixon]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 3 (Item)

with Thieu. By the end of June Thieu and Ky had agreed that this was the best practical way to proceed. In July, Vance spelled out the your-side, our-side formula to Lau. Nothing came of it, however, at that time. In mid-September the President, through

Folder, "Walt Rostow, Vol. 18, January 1 - 14, 1967 [1 of 3]," Memos to the President, NSF, Box 12 [1 of 2] (Item)

effort, is scheduled to be co.mpleted before the Cabinet meets on January 24). You might also ask the Ambassador how 1'e expects the visit of Prime Minister Ky to New Zealand later this month is likely to go.. (Note: there has been strong criticism from

Folder, "November 15, 1967 - 2:16 p.m. Bunker, Rusk, McNamara, Wheeler, Helms, Rostow, Christian," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 1 (Item)

in the government - - most improved. There has been a change in the political situation for the better. There now are local people getting involved in local government at the village level. We are urging Ky and Thieu to put land control in the hands of the local

Folder, "May 8, 1968 - 6 p.m. President's meeting with the negotiating team," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 3 (Item)

3. The matter of reconnaissance. South and have their intelligence. We must have this. They are in the 4. Important political issues. Go ahead and get their views on more formal talks and views on terms for settlement. Thieu and Ky suggested "our

Folder, "August 10, 1968 - 12:25 p.m. President's briefing of Former Vice President Nixon and Gov. Agnew," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 3 (Item)

and unbending. We will stop bombing under right conditions. PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS: We have tried to come up with formula to let us stop the bombing with no public Vance: They have refused to suggest anything at this point. will not permit the Thieu-Ky

Folder, "October 29, 1968 - 6:28 p.m. Foreign Policy Meeting," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4 (Item)

about the NLF. Questions of procedure must be taken up. Saigon cannot be ready for November 2 because Thieu and Ky cannot be ready. They do not want to participate in what the President is trying to do. 2. The President has been urged to stop

Folder, "[January 3, 1966 Meeting with Foreign Policy Advisors on Bombing Pause]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 1 (Item)

people see Cha.val. President: Rusk: Chaval made some statements, didn't he. Yes, but it was out of context. Rusk: In Korea, Formosa, Thailand, there was some worry about their security. President: How did Ky take it. Rusk: · He took it well when Lodge

Folder, "[September 15, 1967 - 7:27 p.m. Meeting with Foreign Policy Advisors]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 2 (Item)

on that recommendation." ~~~~W~=~~----------------------~· The President asked what is happening in Vietnam. Rusk replied "we are getting·~Thieu and Ky working together now, and that is the primary concern. " The President said "we should get Bunker to get them to put

Folder, "[April 4, 1968 - 3:50 p.m. Meeting with U Thant]," Meeting Notes Files, Box 2 (Item)

back in six months. South Vietnam was concerned about this, but I thought we had to show that we were not colonizers and we were only interested in self-determination. At Manila, Ky accepted this. It was a Clifford plan. The President continued

Folder, "October 14, 1968 - Foreign Policy Advisory Group meeting," Meeting Notes Files, Box 3 (Item)

never to talk to the "Thieu-Ky clique/' was now prepared to acknowledge the reality of the GVN. This means that there can be no settlement in Vietnam without the assent of the GVN. We have always said that there would be no problem in having the views

Folder, "NSAM # 320: Task Force on Nuclear Proliferation, 11/25/1964," National Security Action Memorandums, NSF, Box 6 (Item)

. KletlakGW•ky Mr.. Job J. McCley Dr. Jam•• A. Ptarld.ae W.. Arthur K. W&t1on Wit. \YUUam S. Web•te~ Dr. He•bo~ F. Yoi-k MJt. Sporgeon M. X.eny., J~. • National S.calty Cov:adl •taff. will •rve u Staff DU•cto.• to• th• Tadt. Force. De Pffatoat aealps g~eat

Folder, "March 31st Speech, Vol 7, Meeting Group Papers," National Security Council Histories, NSF, Box 49 (Item)

disunity being have Relationship The failure their dotie are weapons These and organized The Thieu-Ky groups 10,000 latter. being planned 9. self-defense measures and need be GVN. of levels .. to of Leadership. lack cohesive We