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  • was the best you have ever had. Prime Minister Lee told me that today. The Committee is entitled to a report and a response to their questions on our national interest. I do not think you need to have it televised. I resent that they did not carry your press
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  • within South Vietnam. We should negotiate a cease-fire rather than accept one. This is the most dangerous proposal we could tie on to. Secretary Rusk: A cease-fire has to be associated with a withdrawal of forces. General Taylor: I would echo those views
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  • politically. with Ho. In 1946 Ho stayed at his home in Paris. He has close relations I have little confidence in M's judgment. I have greater confidence in A's judg­ ment. If it served his purpose A might color his report, however. My contact began last
  • .? MEETING NOJES eeP¥&GHTED ~bliculioo Re~11ires H PerfftiHiun 1~ W :1:: of eeppight o &err. T1iOrikii Jalinaon CIA Director Helms: He is leader without question. The level of subsistence is not yet back to pre-Castro level. All the intelligent people left
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  • to Thieu and his people and a new Administration. We know this is a decent, honorable deal. All your advisers can live with it. This seems to be in the other camp's hands. definitive plan. I do not have a strong The President: We have never gone so far
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  • of the men? (Referring to a bombing pause). General Wheeler: It would have an adverse effect on: our troops South Vietnamese troops South Vietnamese people. The President: What will the United Nations do on Vietnam? Ambassador Ball
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  • Folder, "September 25, 1968 - 12:17 p.m. National Security Council," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 4
  • Order 12356'governing access to national security information. (8) Closed by statute or by the agency which originated the document. (C) Closed in accordance with restrictions contained in the donor's deed of gift. NATIONAL ARCHIVES AND RECORDS
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  • the national security. I an~reciate this very much • ... ... I The past, present and future foreign policy of the United States is of vital concern to the American people and all of the ftee world~ It is not only appropriate but· essential that the basic
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  • . This is important. We must determine what they mean by it. associates "his colleagues" with it. He also He says a complete bombing cessation could lead to a breakthrough. He says this would lead to a peaceful settlement. Kosygin says if, we take such a step
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  • FOR THE PRESIDENT FROM: Tom Johnson Attached are the notes of your meeting with U Thant at the United Nations Building in New York City, April 4, 1968. Those attending the meeting were: The President U Thant - Secretary General of the United Nations Ambassador
  • Folder, "April 4, 1968 - 3:47 p.m. President's meeting with U Thant at the United Nations in New York City," Papers of Tom Johnson, Box 3
  • on Secretary Rusk to review the discussions at the United Nations. Secretary Rusk: While at the United Nations I had sessions with the editorial boards of Newsweek, McGraw-Hill, and the Wall Street Journal. Those meetings were most profitable. On the Middle
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  • deal of traffic. Walt Rostow: That is a good figure. CIA Director Helms: 410, 000 since '65. General Wheeler: Walters knows lots of North Vietnamese people. He saw Le Due To and his people. He saw a very bleak situation in North Vietnam
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  • or comments that you may have. SPOKESMAN: Our principal question is how can we open the way to a stable, acceptable solution of the Vietnam problem. The doors must be open for the national aspirations of North Vietnam. We are impressed by the need to keep
  • thought out, well-balanced statement. - Let's explore ways to strengthen our ways militarily and diplomatically; let's find new. ways to strengthen our society and our nation. -You..are people of good+x~11X±r.I! experience, imagination and initiativeo
  • April. The discussions began shortly a fter I announced that the United Statee -- in an effort to get talks started on a settlement of th e war -· had stopped the bombing of North Vietnam in the area where 90% of its people live. Our representatives
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  • that they should get people out of the DMZ -- give them warning? General Wheeler: You have done that already. If this goes on for three weeks to a month I don't know what will happen. The President: Clark? Secretary Clifford: We had one solid agreement
  • at the moment. I do not see anything better. In South Vietnam, Helms 1 people have picked up a man and let him go. This also may work. Rostow: Interruped to mention that Senator Muskie had called concerned over a CBS report that 85% of the Vietnamese election
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  • : The President's position has improved inter­ nationally since March 31. Bill Jordan did a good analysis of editorials. World showed you took initiative. Now they are stepping up attacks on Saigon. The American people are solidly behind you. Cyrus Vance ought to go
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  • where 90% of its people live. At . /\Our representatives and Ambassador Vance mbassador Harriman "Af~ ~ ~ 1 1 {~ --1\ hatie. ~i:ns-bs.ted 1 · throughout these discussions k~u:-~'lr that the legitimate Government of South Vietnam rn.ust
  • 12358' governing_access to national security information. : B)~ Clcmd. bystatuta or by the agency Which originated thacdcc,JJment. (Cl'.~ Cl~ in~ with rastrictlons contained in the donor's deed of gift. NA FORM UH (8-85) JATIONAL ARCHIVES
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  • , 1967 MEMORANDUM FOR THE PRESIDENT -\ FROM: o~ Tom Johnson Attached are the notes of the President's breakfast meeting on November 21 with the following people present: The Vice President Secretary Rusk Secretary McNamara Ambassador Bunker
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  • : I feel they are hurting as a result of tenacity and endurance of our people. The ARVN has improved, but I doubt they feel they are going to bring about peace very quickly. We must have solid answers to back up our taking this action. I won't continue
  • i~ 168 hours. o'clock bombing halt. Secretary Clifford: people the question the cities '1 11 I would like to speak at 9:30 p. m. In television speech, we must answer to American Why now?" What can we say about the :CMZ and Walt Rostow
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  • need to be able to take care of ours elves. We want to start with a maximum position. Always it is easier to retreat than move forward. We want them to ne~otiate with one point in mind "What is in our national interest ecrlf>.IG ~ cOPYRI Rt ED Mr
  • tomorrow. him nothing. I will give SECRETARY CLIFFORD: The people have made up their minds on the election already. Mark 1\vain said "when in doubt do right." THE PRESIDENT: That is right. But let's not be pulled in. When does Paris want. it announced
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  • . Secretary Rusk: I talked with Hedley Donovan of Time - Life. As you know, they are coming out with an editorial next week in Life which calls for a halt in the bombing. Donovan thinks a lot of people will have their minds changed with a pause. We would
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  • Administration or a Nixon Administration to go on with. Bunker may not be putting it to them stiffly enough. I consider this a deep issue of good faith. Secretary Rusk: What if Nixon's people say be tough. They are whip-sawed too. They have a problem
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  • told the Leadership that we have to depend on senior people like Mansfield and Dirks en. Secretary Rusk: We would like to use Leonhart and Wyn Brown while Bundy is so involved. Both are discreet men. Walt Rostow: Leonhart has responsibilities to a staff
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  • , to the American people, and to our allies, that such an action was, indeed, a step toward peace. A cessation of bombing which would be followed by abuses of the DMZ, Viet Cong, and North Vietnamese attacks on cities or such populated areas as provincial capitals
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  • of world and domestic opinion. The opponents have been inflexible. Have not sought to seek means of agreement. We have given image of nation seeking peace. They have given impression of nation seeking only propaganda. Second, they weakened themselves
  • : We had a party last night for the military people from Randolph and Bergstrom. I am proud of their dedication to duty. Told story about one fireman whose father worked in a coal mine. Said his father did it: Saw the Ocean, RoC.:e in airplane
  • Vietnamese supply network. From north to south, there are general depots forward depots distribution points There are a number of supply areas between the 19th and 20th parallels. 2. People have to go through this area. services is in Than Hoa
  • undoubtedly some of this senti­ ment has been instigated by those who are sympathetic to Hanoi's position -­ or unsympathetic to the position of the United States -- there are nevertheless a substantial number of responsible people who have taken this view. I
  • said the announcement is "expected. I will be surprised if it is not on evening news. Bunker says he needs 24 hours. Secretary Rusk: The President: Smathers called on me. a "political trick" is planned. He said Nixon people think General Wheeler: 1
  • our own people. SECRETARY McNAMARA: If you think you've got problems, you can imagine what sort of problems I will have with the military. All we can point to is the silence along the DMZ. THE PRESIDENT: What cb you think is responsible for the silence
  • between 19th and 20th. The President: I want to hear both sides. I am sensitive that we do any­ thing to hinder negotiations. I also worry that we kill some of our people by holding back to 19th. Study this document carefully and let's meet
  • . THE PRESIDENT: Why do they need more than one day? SECRETARY RUSK: To get people there. THE PRESIDENT: I'd rather not stop bombing until we get them there. SECRETARY RUSK: I guess they understand that this is to get away from the "condition" set by a halt
  • maximum civilian and military support. The people will ask why did I stop bombing if I had no firm agreement. Secretary Rusk: There is a 5% chance the other side would like to put the President in the spot of stopping the bombing, then restarting
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