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  • INTERVIEW IX DATE: April 9, 1986 INTERVIEWEE: LAWRENCE F. O'BRIEN INTERVIEWER: Michael L. Gillette PLACE: Mr. O'Brien's office, New York City Tape 1 of 3, Side 1 G: Let me ask you to first talk generally about the campaign of 1964 and discuss
  • organizations found in Philadelphia under the leadership of Bill Green, Chicago under the leadership of Richard J. Daley, Minnesota under the leadership of the Democratic-Farm-Labor group, and in Albany, New York; O'Brien's concern about the two-party system
  • of Detroit or a piece of New York or a piece of Philadelphia or Los Angeles, whatever, and done it. And my hunch is if even after it passed in terms of the body politic, most people thought that that's what this bill was about. G: How did the status of OEO
  • ' Committee goes back even earl ier. The Lawyers' Committee was organized by a group of perhaps half a dozen private lawyers of New York, Philadelphia, and Washington with a good deal of encouragement from the Kennedy Administration, from President Kennedy
  • reporter many years ago. When I was in Swathmore, Pennsylvania, I worked for the Philadelphia papers part time, but I drifted into political reporting when I was here in Washington. F: By the time the New Deal came on, you were established as a syndicated
  • news; suppression of news; RFK never broke with McCarthy; characterization of McCarthy; LBJ as VP; LBJ’s effectiveness as an ambassador; JFK assassination; dinner with the Johnsons; press disenchantment with LBJ; press secretaries; RFK; oil interests
  • , and successively you have worked for the Wisconsin State Journal, the Milwaukee Journal, the United Press Association, Christian Science Monitor, the International News Service and as Washington correspondent of the Philadelphia Record. You were co-author
  • to my news bureau, I write a syndicated column which is syndicated nationally by Publishers Hall Syndicate, and that's owned by Marshall Field who owns the Chicago Sun-Times and the Chicago Daily News. F: So that you have a national audience? C: Yes
  • . Then the one that came in at twelve o'clock would be there until he left, which was eight or nine o'clock. G: W: G: I see. And that would rotate on a daily basis? Yes. Tell me what it was like in the White House after President Kennedy's assassination
  • : I don't believe so. W: --went to Houston and made the tapes, and to Beaumont and to New York to meet with presidential nominee Kennedy and to appear on nationwide TV and then back to the Valley and on up to Corpus Christi and then into Austin
  • INTERVIHJEES: GOVERNOR AND NRS. RICHARD HUGHES (Betty Hughes) INTERVIEWER: JOE B. FRANTZ PLACE: The Hughes' home in Princeton, New Jersey Tape 1 of 2 F: First of all, Governor Hughes, tell us briefly where you came from, how you gradually moved up
  • Meeting LBJ in 1959; Governor of New Jersey, 1961; LBJ and Kosygin held a meeting at Glassboro State College; Kosygin’s daughter, Dr. Gvishiana, joined Lady Bird, Lynda and Mrs. Hughes for lunch at Island Beach; Ramsey Clark; candidates, 1966-1968
  • and all their staffs. ever seen. He was the best man for the job that I've I didn't get along So well with some of the people that worked for him, in both administrations, especially when they were relatively new. That may have been because when I
  • from the New York Times index. G: Yes. It's an article by [John Warren] Finney of the New York Times and then another one, a column by [James] Reston. Albert Gore is the sinner, I think, but we'll get into that. But that I think I might say
  • it for trips to Philadelphia and New York--short trips. We have helicopters--white-top helicopters that are roughly five minutes from the lawn here at all times when the President's in residence here at the White House. A telephone call will have one sitting
  • : Oh, very frequently--in the news stories principally. I'd say he figured certainly weekly and sometimes almost daily in the news stories. M: Did Mr. Johnson cooperate, either with Mr. Jamison or yourself so that he did get that much publicity? T
  • Biographical information; Dockrey Murder case; Garner of Texas vs. Snell of New York; Miller’s appointment of LBJ; Edward Jamison; first impressions of LBJ; three famous Texas political figures; LBJ’s interest in military affairs; rating LBJ
  • only three lawyers in my class, one of whom was from Mississippi and another from New Mexico. At the same time there was a great shortage of lawyers due to drafting of lawyers in military service of the bar. Here I was with a relatively low average
  • into the retirement program . So, if you do it the way I provided for suggest, you will automatically get the new programs when 2 1/2 million federal employees, and you will not become a target each time improvements that you're bound to want come along ." Mr
  • like this. I had formed a friendship with him several years earlier when I was the editor of the Daily Texan, and at the end of my editorship he had called me down to KTBC and had offered me a job in the news room there. The year I was editor
  • Daily. You had all this problem with Women's Was this just the most obvious of the problems with the various magazines and other news media, or was Woman's Wear Daily a sort of a special case? C: We 11, i t was one of the problems, and one
  • Luci and Lynda; Luci’s wedding; trips to Marshall to be with her father; Lady Bird’s encouragement for Lynda to leave U.T.; Warrie Lyn Smith; categories of news; commercialization of the White House; Luci’s job with optometrist; Lynda’s motive
  • buzzed me and said Mrs. Johnson had called. She was inundated by mail on the subject of beautification. She'd had an interview with U.S. News and World Report, which I think had come out in either a December or January issue. In this she had particularly
  • , in the campaign in 1948 when Coke Stevenson, at that time former-Governor Coke Stevenson, announced for the Senate race on New Year's day, 1948, it is my recollection that he did not say anything at all about Taft-Hartley. And at that time when he announced, W
  • stop him short on the first ballot, then on the second ballot, he would lose strength. And therefore, it would be a completely new convention. It turned out that the key states to hi~ winning on the first ballot were the states of Iowa and Kansas
  • Kennedy and staff in 1965 over an anti-Vietnam speech; work at the White House as a House of Representatives liaison and assistant to Marvin Watson; Chicago and Philadelphia ghetto experiences and ghetto reports to LBJ; rise of black power; White House
  • was the knowledge that Washingtonians have from the daily papers and from the talk of the town. When I went to college I went to Bryn Mawr, and there were only a handful of Democrats - -this was before the Roosevelt era - -and they were for the large part
  • INTERVIEWEE: RICHARD H. NELSON INTERVIEWER: MICHAEL L. GILLETTE· PLACE: Mr. Nelson's office, New York City Tape 1 of 3 G: Let's start with your association with the Peace Corps. How did you get involved with that? N: I had met Bill Moyers and Sarge
  • and Kennedy’s staff; Diem’s assassination; Vietnam; trips to New York and Benelux region; LBJ as president; transition after assassination of JFK; the 1964 campaign; civil rights meeting with black leaders; LBJ’s ethics and relationship with staff; Walter
  • ://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] very interesting political news. More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh Those things were happening all over the country
  • thought that I was T. R. B., who was writing [in New Republic] the anonymous column--knifing him. And he used to glare at me across the Senate chamber so--when I barely knew the man--and one day I remember asking Bobby Baker as to why I’d earned this harsh
  • for the President's brother-in-law, Sargent Shriver, who has just started this new thing called the Peace Corps." had read about it. do." He said, "Do you want a job?" I said I I said, "I think I So he wrote on a piece of paper in his notebook the name "Bill
  • remember that we had patriotic societies coming down from New York and Boston and Philadelphia dressed in colonial costumes, parading around through the House Office Building and the Capitol, buttonholing congressmen and asking them to vote against
  • into how you got started as a protagonist for better health. G: Well, very simply, I started out to go into the academic field. I went to New York University, undergraduate and graduate, and studied under Henry Steele Commager. The Depression came along
  • Biographical information; how Gorman got into journalism; how Gorman got involved in writing about conditions in mental hospitals; the Oklahoma State Mental Hospital; Gorman's work at the Daily Oklahoman; newspaper publisher, E.K. Gaylord's
  • for yourself . Because you it as a journalist ; you go through the daily routine of reporting this story and reporting that story, and sort of face it and say, "All at the end of each of my visits and you rarely right, what does to Vietnam, sit down
  • to Taos, New Mexico and then on to Santa Fe and visited her brother Tony, who lived in Santa Fe, he and his wife, Elizabeth Steele, formerly of Marshall, with whom I had been graduated from high school. very different from [St. Mary's]. L: She loved
  • there was much chance of it passing in the Senate, and we were probably going to have to wait til next year. I immediately got on the phone with Bridges. He was up in New Hampshire at the time. He indicated that he would come back to Washington. I had an FBI
  • . The first one we ever went to was in Houston, when Roosevelt nominated Al Smith. I saw him get up with those two canes, on the floor, and he nominated Al Smith, way back then. We went to Philadelphia in '36, and my daughter was Queen of the Convention
  • of them because I tried to keep abreast of the current material . I knew about the Ford grants in the cities of New Haven, Oakland, Philadelphia, and a number of others . I knew of them but I was not intimately involved or acquainted with any
  • Publications Commission, and others recommended me to be the new appointee. There were two presidential appointments out of eleven members on the National Historical Publications Commission. No reason why Holmes should have, because he and I weren't close
  • How Frantz joined the National Historical Publications Commission; LBJ’s practice of allowing other people to announce good news; Nixon administration’s trouble finding Frantz’s replacement; Marietta Brooks; assembling an advisory board for his
  • , I'd like to know where you were born and when. G: I was born in Philadelphia on July 3, 1916. M: And you got your college education where? G: 1 first went to Penn State and then transferred to Swarthmore where 1 ;l;inished my college education
  • . But we were looking for signs of hostility Of course, there was the Dallas Morning News of that morning, with a very unfriendly ad. IIYankee. Go Home" and so forth. mostly friendly. We saw signs like, But the crowd at the airport was Kennedy
  • got acquainted over that He also went out to get the support of some of the smaller newspapers. He didn't rely on the Dallas News, which he of course didn't have. But he wor ked hard on papers like [those] owned by Mr. Houston Ha.r te. papers
  • to getting legislation passed. and ~t Cotton Here we had had a feed-grain, program for some years, from '61 in the case of feed-grains, and from '64 in the case of wheat, and these were working satisfactorily. We needed a new cotton program, and a wool
  • about that. M: I think that President Johnson--Senator Johnson--finally succumbed to the arguments and persuasion of my good friend Clint Anderson of New Mexico, and it was a personal vendetta with him. I think this was a shabby day in the Senate
  • were sitting under the gun of the charges . New charges were forthcoming every day about this, that, and the other thing ; and about others down here at the Department that had gotten special benefits from Estes, or gotten gifts from him, and this kind
  • to the LendLease hearings with Elizabeth Rowe, and we listened to [James Bryant] Conant, the president of Harvard and to the bouncy little mayor of New York, [Fiorello] La Guardia. I remember [Wendell] Willkie passed me in the hall, one of the most vital, vivid men