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  • of civil service have been in that interregnum after the new administration had been voted in but before it had taken over. C: So, that's Wirtz. F: Now, have you got time to go into Simkin? C: Simkin ran what now? F: Federal Mediation Board. C: I
  • bring you the greetin gs of the Pres·; dent of the United States . He knows where I am. He knows I'm in the Securi ty Council in New York City. 11 But I don't know whether Mr. Johnson ever heard the story that I got the bigges t mileage out of, involving
  • the door where he could get in, so he wouldn't have to touch the door. I don't know what his [trouble with Johnson was]. got in that. Of course, he Well, they were just anti-New Deal, first place, see. It wasn't Lyndon. Of course, it became personal
  • . Paine. I think Dr. Paine was alrea dy there . M: That could very well be . L: I'm just tryin g to remember. M: That was late 1968? L: Yes, that was close to the new admi nistr ation . I'm not too sure. I'm not certa in on that. Because
  • pretty much grown when they'd built the house, so it was just like a brand~new house; They could have bought tlie other halfofthe block and this house for $10,000. (Laughter) That was in 1922. G: Well, $10,000 was-­ L: My father didn't want the land
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  • there was much chance of it passing in the Senate, and we were probably going to have to wait til next year. I immediately got on the phone with Bridges. He was up in New Hampshire at the time. He indicated that he would come back to Washington. I had an FBI
  • : That's correct. F: It must give you a certain trust in patience and persistency. D: Well, it's a testimony to the fact that an idea takes a long time in its incubation and its ultimate growth. I think Chauncey Depew, celebrated raconteur from New York
  • don't know--you see, I think he always perceived Moynihan as a Kennedy person, you see-- G: Did he tie him to Robert Kennedy? B: Yes; New York, Bob Kennedy, all that kind of stuff because--the President chewed my head out at another time when I
  • Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Systems Analysis. In 1965, upon your confirmation, the Defense Department established this new office of Assistant Secretary of Defense for Systems Analysis which you presently occupy. Is this background
  • and served a full career with them. thoraci~ I have been trained and have my boards in general and surgery. After being chief of thoracic surgery in both our hospitals in New York and Seattle, I was brought into Washington at that time largely
  • deal. Of course, the FBI was here, and they We examined various items and questioned where certain things happened and all that sort of thing. I'll get to Warren now. He had a very brilliant lawyer from New York that he was fond of, and he made him
  • is the next place on the route? S: The next from El Paso? We went up to Lordsburg, New Mexico. Went across over to Globe. G: Where’s Globe -- in New Mexico? S: Arizona. We crossed over the Hilo River and that was in Arizona. And it’s Sapira -that’s
  • did learn, indirectly, that our names had been mentioned earlier. That had totally escaped my mind when the call came from the President--I was in New York at this judges conference--that [Lloyd] Hand had left and would I take his place
  • was fairly new still, and as we're finding out, I think, in the Nixon Administration, the liaison between Congress and the White LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID
  • of the new school of arts and sciences, call it Letras, from 1957 to 1960. In 1965, I was called Escuela de Ciencias y to be a candidate. I was proposed as a pre-candidate and then elected as the candidate for the Unification Party, which
  • a lieutenant Although he served for only five months, he was awarded the Silver Star Medal for distinguished service while serving in New Guinea. He left active duty only because President Roosevelt ordered all members of Congress serving in the Armed Forces
  • by the fact that he was new and by the fact that he is extraordinarily good at getting along with people. And he has been able to reach accommodations on certain issues that were of major importance to the more powerful members of the Armed Services
  • straw, perhaps a crucial straw. S: I wasn't there when he got the news. In meetings when the subject would be brought up, I don't remember him making any particular comment about it. Now, this probably meant to me that if he had had some pretty
  • rule. ever had one in Wyoming. I don't believe we've I recall, particularly, as the roll call of states approached Wyoming, New Jersey, which had originally passed, came over and asked if we would defer to them when it came Wyoming's time to cast
  • and was elected on the Democratic ticket, of course. I served from January 1949 until January 1963, at which time I was appointed secretary of state by the new governor, John Connally. I was his top appointee during the time that he was gover- nor--well
  • a new Episcopal mission there. I spent about four and one-half years in Corpus Christi and then at the invitation of the Bishop to begin yet another mission, I moved to Victoria. P: What year was that? M: It has been about ten years ago now, so
  • ? W: Oh, yes, he'll talk you out of your eyeteeth on that first tee. I think this was the first game we'd played, out at the Army and Navy [Country Club]. I don't know who was in town, I think it was Felix McKnight of the Dallas News, and maybe
  • their friendship or their loyalties. Johnson and Clinton Anderson of New Mexico and Kerr and [Richard] Russell of Georgia really ran the Senate on the Democratic side along with the late Styles Bridges, [Everett] Dirksen and some of them on the Republican side. G
  • owed to Hennan Welker would cease to exist when Herman Welker left the Senate. So it was .a whole new situation, a whole new ball game, one might say. Because it was between two men, Herman Welker and Wayne Morse; one of them had befriended me
  • people would even go so far as to cut out chunks of the telephone book. or course, it was easy enough in the morning, because you had the Washington Post, the New York Times , the Congressional Record , the Federal Register, and then whatever memoranda
  • and listen to it for two hours, and I don't know what the hell the issues are ; paying attention ; And I've been You can't sell me anything that way, and what I learn, I've got to learn from you ." So they really went to work and they brought some new
  • funny, because in California I am a Democrat, but in New York [Jacob] Javits, I think, is a fine, fine man, and I love Rockefeller. So I'm sort of in-between, sort of a liberal Republican in New York and as I go West, I get more and more Democratic. F
  • a very short but very pleasant trip to Newport News while Hrs. Baird launched a submarine on a specific kind of occasion. Fact finding because __lhenever in my capacity I go anYHhere for whatever purpose, I learn a goo'd deal by talking to the LBJ
  • of Colorado. But winding up as a mid-year student, unfortunately I never went back for that last four-anda-half months. M: Then what did you do when you left college? B: After leaving college, I went to New York and lived up there for about two years
  • off last time with Johnson coming into the White House and those early days, I don't suppose it made any great difference in your life in the Senate except that you did have a new President. And things were a bit torn up at that time. T: Well, when I
  • way or another to make it. So Janice, a kid that age, she wanted to go, and we didn't have time to say no. She went along and we just had to drive much faster than I like to drive. But it was a new Mercury and no problems, sailed right on. G
  • , Arizona, and went through the public schools out there, though I was born in Pennsylvania originally, the last of nine. [We] moved out to Arizona because of my mother's health; she had tuberculosis. In those days you either went west to Arizona or New
  • ]--but who ever raised the price on New Year's Eve that year sent the President through the overhead, ruined my weekend. G: Is that right? C: Well, he was at the Ranch. We'll get to that. He was at the Ranch; he read it on the ticker and we went to war
  • to build something called New Towns in Town here in Washington and this came late in the administration. 1968. Have you come across any of that? B: We came across it (inaudible). G: Yes. C: There's a book on that program I've got somewhere
  • Justice] got very badly reviewed in the [New York] Times. Have you looked at it? G: (indicates no) C: [I was] surprised. Maybe someone will send me a copy of that book. G: Okay. Was there a key guy in Fortas' office that would be helpful? A clerk
  • of the hanJ dutie• that were beiJls pre•eed down upon u• who were around the new Pre•ident. JOHNSON: What we wanted to do for the country i• what we did. It wa• that lim.ple. I r-lly wanted LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY
  • it was an anti - Kefa uver as much as he just t hought 1 Kefauver was too much middle-ground , midd le-part of t he country, and he r eall y t hought that Jack Ke nnedy had more possibiliti es, that he wa s youn g and a new fac e . Therefore he just pushed him
  • . The Armed Services CoITTTlittee gave him an allotment; I don't remember how much it was, but it came out of the Anned Services Committee authority. G: So he could then go out and hire new people? J: And did. G: Anybody in particular who's worth
  • VII, which created a new entity, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, with a different set of legal criteria and a somewhat different type of relationship to individual minority, potentially aggrieved citizens. They could file individual
  • ? F: I was in Washington. J: How'd you get the news? F: Just as a member of the public. I forget precisely. J: You were likely at lunch. I think half the nation was. Did now-President Johnson get in touch with you very soon after that, as you