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  • got on it, particularly led by this guy [David] Halberstam from the New York Times. If you ever look up the press reports in those days, you'll find Halberstam would write them and then hand out the circulars to all the other press guys and they'd
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • World War II convinced me to join a new outfit called the Central Intelligence Group. F: This is a piece of friendly exchange, when were you in Harvard Business School? K: After I got out of Harvard College. [I] started in '42 and finished my degree
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • ? But we never asked if something was not in the mill, say, to build a new post office in Cleveland. If it is already on the drawing board, we might be able to speed it up a little bit by a few months. If there was no plans for it within the department
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • Quang Duc. Tri Quang was-- for six weeks there I was not at my post. I had speeches to make about Vietnam at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York and elsewhere, which were already laid on. I have to do with it? thing about it. So your
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • relations with the government, gave up my apartment and town house in New York City and brought everything back down to Washington. the University. Got down for Christmas, and in January I started back at And I felt so good but the last of January
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • --was there as president of the National Governors' Conference, and Governor [Richard] Hughes of New LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • and passionate than in fact we are. The White House correspondent for NBC or the New York Times or the AP is ~xp~cted to do as conscientious a job as he can of reporting the activities of the president and the administration. The fact that he may not have
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • prior to this? B: The man who was the chairman of the Interior Committee in the House was a man, Mr. O'Brien, from upper New York State, which you'd think would be opposing vote. But he was dedicated to the fact that Alaska LBJ Presidential Library
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • as it was functioning, and consequently we proposed in 1967 that there be a significant change in the law to give it a different kind of a complexion. We had our last meeting in December of '67, which was the same month that we got our new amendments. I took
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • ; and New Year's Eve, as I think I mentioned previously, I spent up here calling around to tell everybody that the President was going to announce the next day that they were going to work right away. But some people apparently had told the President
  • by taxpayers' money, and therefore you're using public money to take the student to school.. Well, I told the group, "I'll agree with you on that point, if you'll agree with me on this point." I go to New York quite frequently and I take the subway that goes
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • small post. made it easier, but I'm In a way, you might think that inclined to think that maybe it made it a little more difficult, and there were morale problems there. P: You are indicating though that they didn't come from the relationship from
  • Relations Committee] which Humphrey chaired from about 1958, I believe, on until he left the Senate. So she was involved in foreign policy to that degree. handled that subcommittee. She She is now living in New York and keeps running for office up
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • Ford several times. More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh -2- As a matter of fact, I sat next to his wife at a Yale alumni law banquet in New Haven a few years ago. I was at that time vice president
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • understanding of it. He wanted to be kept briefed; he wanted to be consulted; he was cooperative. But he expected to be in the act, and he was in the act. Now I remember once when he went up to the U.N., in New York to represent us at a meeting. I believe
  • Contacts with LBJ; success of Eisenhower relationship with Congress in foreign policy; personal contact between Secretary Dulles and LBJ; AID bill; estimation of LBJ; formidable experience of talking to LBJ; Macomber never brought good news
  • of thing on the basis that you can expect them to keep it quiet? M: In those days only the chairman of the committee was aware of it. G: I see. M: They never told the members of the committee. Now they just print it in the Washington Post
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh Pike I -~ 7 up in New York City you are probably going to be a somewhat different kind of a person than if you
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • their friendship or their loyalties. Johnson and Clinton Anderson of New Mexico and Kerr and [Richard] Russell of Georgia really ran the Senate on the Democratic side along with the late Styles Bridges, [Everett] Dirksen and some of them on the Republican side. G
  • ; LBJ's 1955 heart attack; LBJ and Kerr's dealings with Senator Joseph McCarthy; Reynolds' post-presidential visit to the LBJ Ranch with Bill Kerr; Eisenhower's responsibility for U.S. involvement in Vietnam; LBJ as vice president.
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • after 1960 South Vietnam might even be able to reduce its defense budget. But in 1964--and I'm referring again to the interview that you gave to the U. S. News and World Report-you said that when you left Vietnam in September of 1960
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • ." It was in the [New York] Times the next Monday; this was a Saturday, I recall because the following Monday was my birthday. The fourth of June was the day it appeared, if I remember right. But that handling of the speech was where the drama was in the agency. I
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • , but that was a pro forma exercise in all likelihood. So, as long as Idris was in charge in a very conservative monarchial government in Libya, it was really a separate account. That has all changed, of course, since the ouster of Idris and the advent of this new
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • wanted to ask you about that because, as I recall, there was a Washington Post and New York Times article about the role of Clark Clifford when he became secretary of defense. Was it Bobby's
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • stop him short on the first ballot, then on the second ballot, he would lose strength. And therefore, it would be a completely new convention. It turned out that the key states to hi~ winning on the first ballot were the states of Iowa and Kansas
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • appeared in the Pentagon Papers that have been in the New York Times. (Laughter) So they pretty much outlined what we wanted to get from the Canadians: a willingness to have their representative on the ICC discuss with Hanoi and the officials in Hanoi
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • a LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh 14 talk in New York a few days
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • was selected to be the pilot for that particular trip as we had just gotten some new jets called the Lockheed C-140 Jetstar, built in Marietta, Georgia. We made the trip; it was successful, although we had some bad weather and some other problems
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • a group to Eddie Senz in New York and pay the bill for all of them to have make-up treatment, and learn how to do make-up. Of course he would remind them that he had spent this money, you know, and therefore to make your face up and look good. He
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • for this, "but not Barry Goldwater. II There were about six things and all of them, "but not Barry Goldwater." And it ended by saying this ye3f we're going to elect a new president, "but not Barry Goldwater." So I sent it to Bill Moyers. the Democratic Convention
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • : INTERVIEWEE: MICHAEL FORRESTAL INTERVIEWER: PAIGE E. MULHOLLAN PLACE: Mr. Forrestal's .office, Shearman and Sterling, 53 Wall Street, New York City Tape 1 of 1 M: You're Michael Forrestal. You were a Far Eastern expert with the National Security
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • that there was some time ago an article in I believe it was the New York Times which indicated that he asked for a lot more troops than he was given. He had plans as to how he would use those troops, in the event they were made available to him, but he said he
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • that certain individuals right here in the Pentagon, at a very early date, leaked all the details of this to the New York Times, as you probably recall. This generated the usual reaction that you get here in the United States, generated by people who
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • a protracted period of tir_,;, but it seemed ltke a lengthy period of tin~e. I also recall that, at the time--i t seems to me that it w as prior to the response from Hanoi about the peace talks--and the Presidcnt got Cy Vance to come down from New York
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • with that library they built particularly. We looked at some of their commercial buildings--one I believe in Lincoln Center in New York; looked at commercial buildings as well. I remember Connecticut General Life--we looked at their building, Mrs. Johnson
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • people are going to get hurt or killed. G: Did you have an opinion on the way that Hanoi was apparently able to convince some Americans that we were, in fact, bombing the civilians? Harrison Salisbury, I think, of the New York Times, was perhaps the best
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • as a kind of a buffer to take care of special problems that got created, because of my civil rights background and labor background. Well, one day evidently some angry folks from New Jersey came over from one of the local poverty programs over some
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • , then I got there about the tenth of December. I got there about two weeks after the assassination. G: Okay. F: When I got back to Saigon I obviously had a lot of catching up to do because I was out of touch, you might say, with the members of the new
  • Van Kim; Ton That Dinh; Mai Huu Xuan; David Nes and Mike Dunn; management of the American Embassy in Vietnam; Lodge leaving his post as Ambassador and his political involvement; Flott duties under Ambassador U. Alexis Johnson; Max Taylor; comparing
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • . You didn't start out to be a career diplomat . I took the Foreign Service examinations in May of 1936, and I started my first post at Vancouver at the end of December of '36 . F: Did you have any background in Latin America, or did you just sort
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • things that would naturally ari~e, I suppose, in dealing with postmasterships and new post offices and appointments of various people where the House members might feel they were entitled to equal publicity in making the announcement. Nothing like
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • : Oh, yes, considering that I was new and green. I was the main political guy for Brown, so there was some value from their viewpoint. B: But it was pretty heady stuff. What was your impression then of Mr. Johnson's chance for the nomination? 0
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)