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  • : Was this for action in the Pacific? P: For action in the Pacific, right, around Kelpart Island, which is just south of Korea, where we went into a harbor one night and sank a munitions ship that was at anchor. M: Did you have to go through nets and mine fields
  • , whether by telephone or personally or through his assistants, and that the world around him was the world of action and of motion. Attempting to stop that action and motion to get him to listen with great precision to a long disquisition on some subtlety
  • that would give a Democratic candidate appeal. I strongly sensed that he was aware even then that he was in an underdog position with reference to Kennedy. But that was my first close contact with him and I saw very little of President Johnson again until
  • Bartlett -- II -- 10 had informed Senator Lyndon B. Johnson of Texas, the Senate Democratic leader, t h a t tile Hawaii bill should be called up for Senate consideration immediately following the Alaska bill. If not, he said, a move will be made to udd
  • that this was an Administration which would not act? N: I have not been disenchanted with the actions of the Democrats since I have been in the party because, again, I have been in the Civil Rights fight so long. I've seen it from so many angles, and I know what has to be done
  • appointments; black attitudes toward LBJ; Hobart Taylor, Jr.; RFK, Truman, Humphrey and John Macy; Nabrit’s switch to Democratic Party in 1964; Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party’s seating fight at 1964 Convention; advising President on civil rights
  • ? And what were the circumstances? A: I recall meeting Lyndon Johnson one time when I was visiting thenSenator Humphrey in the United States Senate, and Lyndon Johnson was at that time a Senator and the Leader of the Democratic Majority
  • , Democratic Congressmen for dinner at the White House. The President asked me if I would join them for dinner, understanding that this was somewhat of an awkward request--which he admitted--but which I fully understood. So I had dinner with the President, sat
  • and over-eager sonar men. No visual sightings by the Maddox." In other words, "We've seen no torpedoes; we've seen no PT boats; suggest complete evaluation for action." Well, he was the one man who knew what had happened and what hadn't happened. wai t
  • explicitly what I think about any subject, but labels sometimes keep people apart. They say, "Oh, he's a socialist," or "Oh, he's a capitalist," or "Oh, he's a Democrat," or "Oh, he's a Republican," and so I try to avoid them. But I have learned a great
  • went on all during that period. But the degree to which he was active I think was somewhat limited; he was not particularly engaged in political pursuits at that stage although he was on the Democratic Study Group, or the Policy Committee I guess
  • Biographical information; contacts with Johnson; support of LBJ in 1960; Democratic Policy Commission; State Department informing Vice President's office; Potomac Marching Society; Kennedy Administration; working for Johnson; Advisory Committee
  • the 1960s, when he was st ill a senator? W: No, sir, I had no personal association with him other than in 1956 I was delegate to the Democratic National Convention and was the platform representative from Alabama, and I got on the elevator at, I believe
  • /show/loh/oh 5 these negotiations which came up on food aid every few months as a means for obtaining commitments from the recipient countries that they would take the kind of actions needed to develop their own agriculture . THB : Now, sir
  • talked to him about the small towns in America where the level of teaching was mediocre and certainly not competitive with the big cities, and how, if we had television stations serving those towns, films by acknowledged experts in the field could
  • a filibuster, and that stopped us because the Democratic leader Mansfield would not try to break the filibuster. You see, the way you break the filibuster is by meeting around the clock, just keep on meeting, and Mansfield absolutely refused to do
  • in the drafting of that legislation. Lyndon Johnson supported the Taft-Hartley Act, whereas, Sam Rayburn did not. speech against it. He made a So Johnson was not hidebound to the so-called liberal side. He was flexible on occasions, as indicated by his action
  • Kennedy-F: Did you get the impression he'd placed too much faith in the power of the Senate? H: That, and I think he also placed too much faith in the power of his old friend, the House Speaker, Sam Rayburn, and a few of the key Democrats throughout
  • Biographical information; first meeting with LBJ; 1960, 1964 Democratic conventions; association with LBJ during the vice presidency; NBC’s handling of the news after the JFK assassination; meetings with LBJ; credibility gap; Georgetown Press
  • and Democratic national conventions and the campaigns to follow. The President said at that time that he was giving very serious consideration as to whether or not he should run. The President was keenly aware of the problems that were besetting the nation
  • the Vietnamese would be celebrating, and all the Americans would be sit­ ting around on leave or doing nothing . So on the eve of Tet, I went over to Laos, went to Vientiane, and I was up around Luang Prabang at an area where they'd had some recent action
  • fairly close associates of M r . Johnson, who was Minority Leader at the time. B: Do you remember him taking any role in that at all? No, he didn't. He was a straight Democrat. He wasn't on the Foreign Relations Committee. in it. He went right down
  • in the United States, and I predict that one of these days it will be the greatest bulwark of strength that the United States government will have in financial institutions. F: Of course it has gone beyond that. I've seen it in Latin America where in some
  • ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh 3 contacts in the Pentagon--was that we would in fact take some action
  • are not. dinner with them. Of course, some But I would go to I had just seen Wilbur that afternoon, and he out- lined everything that was going to happen tomorrow morning, that he had the votes. I'd go to dinner with the members of the committee, Democrats
  • they couldn't do much more than that. I pointed out that the Federal Republic of Germany might be excused for thinking that there were seventeen million Germans hostage in the German Democratic Republic, and nonetheless the West Germans sent us all kinds
  • on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh ASHMORE -- I -- 2 which became increasingly close as the years wore on, as I was very active in Democratic politics as an editor of a Democratic newspaper. F: Did the Gazette
  • Biographical information; first meeting with LBJ; Democratic political campaigns leading to 1956 Convention; Central High School integration; 1960 Democratic Convention and Kennedy-Johnson nomination; relations with LBJ as VP; ghost writing for Lady
  • - - 22 led the fight to reinstate disability insurance on the floor. It was passed, it did go into the law, and Kerr was the keynote speaker at the Democratic Convention. He started out his speech with this great achievement of the Democrats
  • and generosity; Jesse Kellam; social security disability insurance; AMA; Senator Kerr; LBJ relationship with Senator Richard Russell; LBJ as a liberal; LBJ and the Presidency; mobilization for youth; Community Action Program; legal services program; Head Start
  • in there. Was there ever any question as to what your politics were or whether or not that would influence the appointment? T: Not a one. I was never asked whether I had supported the Democratic Party or whether I was, in fact, a Democrat. I had in 1964 contributed
  • Secretary who went to Moscow and wanted some ammunition, was to launch a thing we called "Phase A-Phase B ." That is to say, we would be prepared to stop t1te bombing with no visible immediate counter­ action on the other side, provided that it was agreed
  • there and the Mississippi Freedom Democratic delegation? C: Again, not much that I was aware of. We were in communication with the civil rights forces in Mississippi, but we tended to do our own LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY
  • that the only connection I had with President Johnson early on was not one that would have made him particularly fond of me and the Americans for Democratic Action. M: Did you react with horror like the rest of the Kennedy cadre when the nomination became
  • ://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh - 2 B: That's going to come up later in the interview when we get into the area of personnel. Have you had in your career at any time any strictly political activity? R: No, I haven't. My wife, as an active Democrat
  • , when the Italians were then occupying the south of France and I was in a villa I always had had with my mother and my stepfather, four sisters, and my little girl Annette, the rumblings of war were still over our heads. northern Africa. America
  • relations in South Africa; meeting LBJ for the first time; Sam Rayburn; Democratic National Conventions of 1956, 1960, and 1964; political social gatherings; visits to the Ranch; working with Mrs. Kennedy on the Fine Arts Committee; White House furnishings
  • was the Chieu Hoi returns, although Chieu Hoi could be a result of a military action, military pressure, as much as psychological operations. But psychological operations, you would think, were an element in it. You would, I guess, measure it by the degree
  • , this was true of the Reserves as well. He didn't want to be in the middle of a social campaign or a social-action campaign when he had to use this force as a military force. Well, I remember on that same occasion, we said "We don't want to embarrass you, Mr
  • well say that I'm not political enough, but the real answer is that I'm just not political for Fred Belen ." Congressmen--came to Washington in I said, "I've been secretary to two '37 . My mother was vice-chairman of the Democratic party in Michigan
  • does not slow the economy down much, which is presumably what you want to do if you're afraid of inflation. In the normal circumstance it wouldn't have been a bad move, but in combination with the Fed's action it just may have put corporations more
  • that it would not be good with my constituents if I voted carte blanche with everything that the administration was doing. I think they also felt that I was a Democrat and would support most of these things and would give them support in the crunches, and I
  • , a Democrat of Alaska. Mrs. Bartlett, you have very generously consented to let us interview you about your husband's associations with Lyndon Johnson and the very important events surrounding the granting of statehood for Alaska. I'd like to just mention
  • fiscal action, namely a tax increase. Oh, I think at one time he did contend that if we didn't do something about this budget deficit that the alternative might be direct controls on wages and prices. just for dramatic effect, I don't really know
  • very amusing incident that might be worthwhile as an insight as to how a new President comes along and worries about the role he's going to have to play. Almost the first major action that I had to take for President Johnson was a letter to King
  • , for the Denver speech and a few, but never actually was on the campaign trail except in Massachusetts. But I was deeply involved then in the effort to reorganize and revitalize the State Democratic Party of Massachusetts. That period went on. We were