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Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 9 (IX), 9/22/1987, by Michael L. Gillette
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- didn't strike. And they liked each other, despite the arguments they had over the war. I mean I remember sometime later, Mark Hatfield--it was either Mark Hatfield or Clifford Case--came out against the war, and the President in one of those sort