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Oral history transcript, Claude J. Desautels, interview 1 (I), 4/18/1980, by Michael L. Gillette
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- , Gene Zuckert-- he came over and [we did the] same thing. Of course, McNamara knew. Three separate meetings. Larry had discussed it with the Secretary of Defense. So we'd get the notice first, we'd make the calls, and then the Pentagon courier--army