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  • ://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh March 18, 1969 Me Let me identify the tape first. Jr. This is an interview with Mr. John W. Macy, He is the former head of the Civil Service Commission. March 18, 1969. The date is The time is 11:15 in the morning
  • Relations Committee? M: Well, yes, I did. The Foreign Relations Committee post opened up rather unexpectedly, to me at least. I had been kind of waiting in the wings for an opening on the committee for some time, since that was my primary area
  • discussion last time, Dr . Baker, one aspect of our two prior meetings has occurred to me that I thought I might make a matter of record . I have not undertaken any preparation for our discussions . I have not known in advance the subject matter that you
  • when I got this call from Norb [Norbert] Schlei, who at the time was assistant attorney general in charge of the Office of Legal Counsel. This was maybe September of 1963, and he was looking for another person to work in the Office of Legal Counsel
  • mention, for the sake of the tape, that you and Lyndon Johnson are contemporaries, that you grew up in the same period of time in Johnson City. So, can you tell me a little bit about life in Johnson City? L: Well, life in Johnson City then was so
  • ://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh April 25 ~ 1969 Mc Let me identify this tape as the second session with Mr. John W. Macy, Jr. The date is April 25, 1969, and my name is David McComb. Last time we were talking about your career and had gotten
  • , 1971 INTERVIEWEE: ROBERT KOMER li~TERVIEWER: PAIGE E. PLACE: Mr. Komer's office, RAND Corporation, Washington, D.C. MULHOLL&~ Tape 1 of 3 M: You were, for part of the time in 1964 and '65, the White House man on Africa as well as the Middle
  • at [the] State [Department]? RG: At the time that I was a student at the National War College, General Burchinal, Dave [David] Burchinal, who was at that time the deputy chief of staff for plans, programs, and operations of the air force, picked me to go
  • Rayburn, the Speaker at that time, is that correct? B: Yes. The Speaker always liked to have one or two young men around him, and I qualified in those days, along with Homer Thornberry, who was also quite close to him. We would often meet down
  • . Prior to that you had Prior to that you had been a New York Times State Department reporter. Does that pretty well get tbe last ten or fifteen years? J: It does except my last public service was as a member of the American delegation to the peace
  • Building, Washington, D.C., and my name is David McComb. First of all, I'd like to know something about your background. I know that you've been in Washington for a long time. You've been president of a prominent lumber and hardware concern in this town
  • Macy; possibility of Home Rule; time spent with Congressmen; D.C. Committee; involvement in architectural changes; 1969 budget; working groups of Council; DC’s peculiar problems; commuter tax; Congressman Broyhill; Jack Nevius; Congressman Archer Nelsen
  • that were presidential appointees who were in policy roles in 1940. At that time I was assistant to Mr. [James V.] Forrestal, who was one of the anonymous six presidential assistants working with Mr. Roosevelt. P: And who were the other two? N
  • like you-- R: Well, it took me a long time. I had been trying to get off for quite some time and thinking about it and making real efforts for quite some time. I: Did you have any connection with Mr. Johnson at all prior to the time you joined
  • no experience in this area at that time. However, I did graduate in personnel management and later went to the advanced business school at Harvard as pertains to finance and political problems that come in the advanced management program. So I assume
  • . I had served as assistant attorney general and county attorney, and then I was on the Superior Court bench. It was at a time that people didn't think it was so terrible for a judge to run for office, so I thought I would like to run for the Senate
  • abroad in one place almost as well as another. But I remem- ber the time when I was first asked whether I would be interested in a diplomatic appointment, it was mentioned to me by one of President Truman's advisors that there weren't very many women
  • start until I came back to active duty. I was recalled to active duty at the time of the Korean War in September of 1950. My entire previous experience was in World War II, close to four years, and I was an infantry platoon and company commander
  • not commit it to such a terrain. The result is that, as one reads the memoranda, it becomes clear that I was prepared at various times to concede things that had already been decided. This was tactically necessary if I were to have any credibility with my
  • of running for political office when I was in high school, and so one step led to another and it turned out that I did manage to win a couple of offices. A great many other people, especially when I was in college, had ambitions. lone time thought
  • INTERVIEWEE: ARTHUR KRIM INTERVIEWER: Michael L. Gillette PLACE: Mr. Krim's office, New York City Tape 1 of 1 G: Mr. Krim, let me just begin by asking you to sketch the origin of your friendship with President Johnson. Do you recall the first time you
  • INTERVIEWEE: ARTHUR KRIM INTERVIEWER: Michael L. Gillette PLACE: Mr. Krim's office, New York City Tape 1 of 2 G: Mr. Krim, let's start with that weekend of August 6, [1965], the first time I believe that you went to Camp David. K: Yes. My wife and I
  • to the Ranch; press coverage of Krim’s time spent with LBJ; development of LBJ’s land in Texas; LBJ encouraging Krim to buy land near his Ranch; George Brown; A.W. Moursund; LBJ’s egalitarian nature; LBJ’s treatment of staff members and friends; LBJ teasing
  • : There was no fight. M: It was a matter of simple passage? C: It was something that was worked out with the industry, and there was no fight. So that it was just a question of finding sufficient legislative time to consider the bill in the respective committees
  • by the name of Karl E. Mundt. He lost that election; it was a close election. He lost by about fifteen thousand votes. The incoming president, Kennedy made--he was a congressman at that time and was defeated for the Senate. President Kennedy made him
  • INTERVIEWEE: CARL B. ALBERT INTERVIEWER: Dorothy Pierce McSweeny PLACE: Congressman Albert's office in the Capitol, Washington, D.C. Tape 1 of I M: In our last session, we had come forward to a point of time in 1960. I'd like to continue
  • not? A: Yes, he was. B: Did you immediately become acquainted with him? A: I had met him earlier than that. In 1935 I was National Youth Administrator for New Mexico and he for Texas, and we got acquainted at that time; so that I knew him already
  • a War Department and a Navy Department. President Truman remarked one time that we could never go through another war with the archaic organization we had in the Second World War. Even though we finally won, it was despite the organization that we had
  • picture at this time? V: Not to the degree that he later became involved. He was involved in the financial part of it, but I would say that it was later on that Arthur took a role with President Johnson that really superseded everyone else
  • . At that time the person we worked with in Commerce was Herb Hollomon, who was an assistant secretary of commerce. He's gone on to become president of the University of Oklahoma; you may know of him from that capacity. So, in many ways, both in my official
  • their actions last year when that bill was up because they got a big quid pro quo. They got what they wanted by way of spending limitations. Our members didn't get anything this time for supporting Nixon. That's one of the reasons why they didn't support Nixon
  • this occasion? B: We did have some review meetings, yes. I don't think we had very many, but we did have a fairly comprehensive review of the situation at the time in regard both to the military and pacification situation. I reported, I think, that the new
  • stayed there a short time I think and got this job over in Houston as debate coach at Sam Houston High School. I \'Ias teaching in San Antonio, and he was teaching in Houston. Eyery month or two I'd go to Houston to visit him or he would come to San
  • was, at the time, in London; I was the political- military affairs officer in the embassy in London. Actually the word came to me when I happened to be in Paris, going over for just a couple of days for some talks with the embassy there, and someone called me--I
  • Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh Gordon -- IV -- 2 happy phrase. I didn't at the time. There \Vas just none better around and for SOme reason it was felt necessary to have a rubric
  • office now in Brookings The date is March 20, 1969 ; the time is 2 :50 in the afternoon ; and my name is David McComb . First of all, I'd like to know something about your background, where were you born, when, where did you get your education . 0: I
  • several visits to see the President for some minor complaints at which time I accompanied Dr. Anderson and in the presence of the White House physician, Dr. [George] Burkley, met the President and assisted at some of these procedures, learning LBJ
  • , because New Jersey happened to be getting a lot of publicity because of the White House interest and because it was next to the New York Times which was covering it. But I noticed in these steno pads we had a problem in Wisconsin, and the issue came up
  • us our breakfast in the morning, and we ate out the rest of the time. now . We ate at a place called Wukasch's, which is not here It was 6n Guadalupe, on the Drag, about half a block from : where we roomed and we had meal tickets and ate lunch
  • being a part of, the Naval Affairs Committee, with old Mr. [Carl] Vinson of Georgia, whom we called the Admiral, in charge since time began. (Interruption) A good many evenings and weekends out at our house, or down at the Capitol, were spent with fellow
  • of effort, out of which some specific pictures emerge. There was one time that Lyndon got a movie star-G: Gene Autry. J: Gene Autry, whom somehow in the course of our--I guess it was in our work on radio we had come to know him. They liked each other
  • Patrol. Fromthere I went into the Navy for a couple of years and then was released into the National Park Service [which picked me up without loss of time from the Border Patrol]. LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY