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  • at that time. F: You came on home, then, after that from Los Angeles? T: I think Mrs. Thornberry and I came back here with President and Mrs. Johnson and then went on to Mexico with them. I believe that is what happened. F: Did he seem pretty well
  • finally that I did. And as I said to him at the time, "Well, Mr. Vice President, I'll come to Washington at your suggestion; I know it'll be a good experience and I'll enjoy it, but lId like to do it on the basis of a limited stay. I'll come
  • : He spent most of the time, I guess, in San Bernardino. H: In and around Los Angeles and that vicinity, and maybe San Bernadino was the place. I don't recall. G: I'm wondering why he stayed as long as he did. H: I think it was kind
  • LBJ’s susceptibility to illness at various times; State Senator Alvin Wirtz; Ku Klux Klan in Texas; receivership of LCRA in Texas; Wirtz as assistant secretary of Interior Department; his expertise on Texas water law; Sam Ealy Johnson; LBJ’s trip
  • in Los Angeles in 1960? D: No, sir. I went out there, but I know very little about what took place there; I don't believe I could shed much light on that. F: Were you prepared for his, one, being offered the vice presidential nomination, and, two
  • and was elected on the Democratic ticket, of course. I served from January 1949 until January 1963, at which time I was appointed secretary of state by the new governor, John Connally. I was his top appointee during the time that he was gover- nor--well
  • . to Cecil. . White was violently anti- I remember after the Los Angeles convention running into Bill up in the Senate press gallery and to my astonishment he said, "It may be necessary to vote for Nixon." I was astonished at Bill's indignation at Lyndon
  • against civil rights and he was a true representative in voting against every bill. he became a United States Senator, the situation changed. And then when Texas was about half and half at that time on civil rights, so his votes were divided a lot
  • andp~ssibly myself--i't might be more economical for a family with modest means to be able to go to that college there, which was a junior college at the time, a two-year college. But their roots were so deep in Houston, both his and my mother's
  • extraordinary conversation bet,...een the t\'lO of us so Ion.?: ago: t 1) It did not occur to me, at the time, to protest either her conclusion, or the logic behind it; and 2) I have not found it expedient even once, in the intervening years, to exercise my
  • : For the Office of Economic • • • • • TD: Yes, for the regional office here. We handle eleven states out of this area office. PB: Mr. Dunlap, I understand you were at San Marcos in Southwest Texas College at the same time as Mr. Johnson. We are trying to get
  • at that particular time. However, I was born in Eagle Pass, Texas on the second of February, 1912. Ny father was an agent for Wells Fargo at that time and we moved around quite a bit. We moved from Eagle Pass to Taylor, from Taylor to Henderson over in East
  • , and what you have been doing. P: I came to Washington in June of 1919 in response to an offer by the then-Senator Sheppard of Texas of a place in his office for the summer. I can well recall that at that time I had the understanding that the position
  • remembrance of when I first met Lyndon Johnson was he came through Buda with his father and, because of the close family relationship and the old time acquaintance, why, they stopped in to see us . I'm sure that's the first time I met him . F: Probably two
  • was not able to go to' college as my stepfather had had a financial disaster, you might say. gone broke and he had lost all. The bank had At that time the federal government di dn 't protect people 1ike they do nm'l. So I stayed out three years and worked
  • as we would like to have it. Would you describe that as fully as you can? WH: That time I recall in detail because I was running for Democratic nomination for a place in the Texas Senate. It was the 19th Senatorial District, composed of six counties
  • to t,JPA . Lyndon has asked (lrs . Hicks if she knew of anyone working for the Texas Relief Commission at that time that she would recom­ mend for his program . She gave him my name . I went to Austin in the latter part of December, 1935
  • lived at that time. A bit of history, immaterial possibly. I'm a product of Austin public schools, the University [of Texas] class of 1934. I studied journalism and also government, minor on municipal government. In the middle of the Depression I
  • got into that political race, and we had met many of the political figures of the state. I don't remember exactly when we met President Johnson, but it was sometimes in the 1930s. He was director of the NYA [National Youth Administration] at the time
  • said, So I got a cup of coffee . We were sitting there drinking it, and about that time Lyndon walked in . At that time I didn't know that Jesse was there to meet Lyndon, and he didn't know that I was there to meet Lyndon . came in . Lyndon We
  • along in there. I had worked as a copy desk man, as a news editor, and so on. PB: Mostly as a newS editor. Now I want to ask you to do a rather difficult thing. I want you to go back some thirty years in your memory to the time when you first met
  • on the NYA staff in Texas, is that right? Or you and L. E. Jones came on board about the same time. O: L. E. Jones was there answering mail, just stacks and stacks of it, and some friend of mine when I was in shorthand school came busting in one morning
  • Pickle was one ; Harvie Yoe was one ; Ben Crider was one ; and I believe Harvey Payne was the other one at that time . They were told, as they worked their particular area within my ten-county district, to cultivate them, and they did . So Lyndon
  • left that under unhappy cir- cumstances in the end of August, beginning of September, 1964 [and] spent time from September to June more or less sitting in the White House doing nothing. Then I went down to the Dominican Republic as chief of the U.S
  • for Dick Kleberg for Congressman--I mean Richard Kleberg for Congress, which included Bexar County at that time. P: This is 1931? B: Yes. He was elected for Congress, and he made an appointment of a young man by the name of Lyndon Johnson to be his
  • , and they 't'Tere probably worse in NYA. PB: In fact, you scarcely had time to eat back in those days, isn't that right? BP: That's about true. I guess as far as Nr. Johnson's con- cerned that ••••• I believe he must have eaten more ha~~urgers than any man
  • in the Louisville Nashville Railroad. He had had a business education of some sort, as they had as early as that. at the time. He went home for his mother's funeral in 1860 or '61. And he wrote his father after he got back. and of course he was in politics. just
  • graduated before he enrolled. However, I was in San Marcos during the summers and on other vacations, and knew him and spent some time with him when he was a student at San Marcos. G: May I ask you about the kinds of courses he particularly liked
  • , Tennessee on a hillside farm nea r Knoxvi 11 e. G: ~Jhat brought you to Texas? S: Well, you won't believe it but I'll make it as interesting as I can. I was in the service in World War I, July, 1917 to December, 1918. [It was] the first time I had been
  • : We were college students at San Marcos, Southwest State Teachers College. We both entered in what was at that time called the spring term. It was a short term that no longer exists but about the first of April or something like that. My first
  • sketch your background, education? H: Ny home town All the time. "laS Mi nera 1 We 11 s. But when I got into NY A I had been in Lubbock, going to school at Texas Tech and had finished out there and was out looking for something to do right
  • or to get started in some productive way~ who were also unemployed or unable to go to school because they . lacked the simple basic requirements of clothes and foodo At that time Lyndon was the secretary of a congressman in Washington, D.C., and as I
  • , largely from students of North Texas State. thing. That was the beginning of the It seems to me like there was a man named McDonald Leech [?] who was the state president at the time. If you will recall the history of the Young Democrats, the primary
  • the Congressional records. But just to begin with, you were elected to the 76th Congress in 1939 as a Democrat from Oklahoma, and you were succeSSively reelected to the House through 1951. At that time you were elected as Senator and served in the Senate until
  • in May and we had to define each of NYA's programs, and establish the procedures for these programs by the time students came back in the fall. And these college and university presidents, fairly enough, wanted to know what the procedures would be well
  • in time, I suspect." He said, "Well, I still would like to talk with you. someone." I've had a very good recommendation on you from He never told me who, and I don't know for sure to this day who it was that put in a word for me. So he said, "I want
  • your checking out. Corson I believe is a management consultant, living in northern Virginia. G: John J. Corson. Sure. Let's start at the end and get the story on the last time LBJ saw Sam Rayburn alive. LBJ Presidential Library http
  • at one time, just prior to your association with Mr. Johnson, the managing editor of the American or both papers? L: I had served on both papers, but in 1936 I was managing editor of the American when I terminated my connection down there. B: I
  • for the first time in thirty-five years. M: I was going to say, your career as a government slave goes back for some time. And now you're out of it. G: Yes. M: But you did serve in that position for-- G: Two years, a little over M: Two years
  • have some kind of roof over them most of the time. They were just nice, neat, clean places for travelers to stop and relax and eat. PB: During the years between Mr. Johnson's election to Congress and his election to the United States Senate, did you
  • . He was born a freedman in Washington; thus the name Freeman was no coincidence. He looked around to find a dental school that would accept him in the l860-s, and there were about four or five dental schools in the country at that time. Harvard did