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  • LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh INTERVIEW II DATE: May 27, 1969
  • a lot of hell because it was a political meeting and he was announcing a military thing but it--that's how he took care of Goldwater. We were so burned by Minute Man II, Goldwater claiming that Minute Man II was not a new weapons system, that when we
  • , who also mined copper and other metals, said to us in the meeting was that they thought, as had been done in World War II, maybe we really should take a look at all the problems of raw materials and mining. And Paley had done that during World War II
  • pads here in this? [In] any case, promptly after the federal court rejected the railroad's bid, Stuart Saunders was back on the White House phones. The appeal to Justice [John Marshall II] Harlan to stay the order of the three-judge federal court Harlan
  • . We sold aluminum. We went to the steel people. He said we would not use the antitrust or tax laws against them but we would be aggressive in trying to get them to hold their prices and wages. And Fowler said that with Vietnam, unlike World War II
  • these things that Morse would periodically say if we're really at war we ought to get with labor, get them to make an agreement, the way they did in World War II, to end these strikes. Then on the third, I guess, we met with Morse, Mansfield, [Nicholas
  • , and would clearly be very supportive of the wage-price guidelines and holding to them, and he'd very much be LBJ's man and Ginsburg knew Morse from those World War II days. I just can't remember. I mean, the only reason I would have called Ginsburg
  • that; there'd been an issue with Eisenhower. If I'm right, you have to remember something else. I believe that liberals had periodically, on numerous occasions in the fifties, after World War II, proposed legislation to ban [discrimination in] housing
  • had in his bill. The Times ran the story indicating we were now looking at mandatory standards, and that set off the President. It also set off Henry Ford [II], who wanted to come in and talk to him about highway safety on February 17. I must have seen
  • would periodically call some senator on the Hill, but my greater involvement was in lining up the businessmen to call on behalf of Fortas. G: Who specifically? C: We went after the National Alliance for Businessmen. I called Henry Ford [II]. I think
  • Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 2 (II), 5/27/1969, by Joe B. Frantz and Paige E. Mulhollan
  • orchestrated. There was none of that. His view was--and God knows, he may have been correct--his view was very simple, very patriotic, very World War II, very World War I. G: Mobilization. C: Mobilization, you go, and very simple, straightforward, apple pie
  • mean I was. I didn't laugh, I'll tell you that. Not as shaken. It didn't even actually--by that time maybe I had gotten jaded--it didn't bother me as much as you know, we've been through the meeting with Pope [Paul II] haven't we, when the Pope said
  • all. G: Did that accident and the subsequent-- C: Put that in the miscellaneous. (Inaudible) under Searcy, Arkansas, explosion. G: That accident and the subsequent-- C: Titan II missile. G: --report cause locales to be more reluctant to have
  • and Johnson, had come out of World War II; they had come out of the Cold War and they had--there was plenty of reason to be suspicious, in any case. But I think the struggles, the things, all the attempts all were--if he could have turned that war off, boy, he
  • histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh Califano -- VI -- 7 of the generals in it. I think if you talk to people like Earle Wheeler, they were saddened by what had happened to him because apparently he was quite a good soldier in World War II
  • or the Office of Emergency Planning during World War II. Johnson got to know them as bright, young people. He became involved in that part of the strategy. We got no reaction from the copper companies. They were not about to budge and I think they had no idea