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Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 63 (LXIII), 4/17/1990, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • , 1990 INTERVIEWEE: JOSEPH A. CALIFANO, JR., with comments by Marcel Bryar INTERVIEWER: Michael L. Gillette PLACE: Mr. Califano's office, Washington, D.C. Tape 1 of 1, Side 1 G: With regard to the [Abe] Fortas nomination [as chief justice
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 38 (XXXVIII), 11/15/1988, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • to say he acceded. I mean, Ramsey was not one to do things he didn't approve of. Now we had here--where did we have the [Abe] Fortas--? Didn't you have the notes about his conversations with the President destroying the tape? No? That all just appears
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 18 (XVIII), 1/6/1988, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • conference, the [Abe] Fortas thing, the John Chancellor thing--did I tell you? No? The day we announced the build-up of troops which was the first week I was there, I think, we went to the Pentagon that morning. He took me with him for a cost reduction
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 59 (LIX), 1/16/1990, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • and chair this board. Therefore, he decided that he would have to retire immediately before he took the seat on the board, which now I recall is why, when he walked in that room and saw Abe Fortas-- G: What happened? LBJ Presidential Library http
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 33 (XXXIII), 6/13/1988, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • bill out. That was not unusual for Johnson. I've always--I have no proof of this in any way, shape, or form. I have always thought, speculated, that, for example, one of the things that must have transpired between him and [Abe] Fortas and ultimately
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 30 (XXX), 5/18/1988, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • , I had conversations with [Abe] Fortas and with the President. I guess at three-fifteen, and then later in the day. These led to a whole series of suggestions. G: Why Fortas? Why wouldn't . . . ? C: Well, I mean, you know, we must have been
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 37 (XXXVII), 11/14/1988, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • the meeting with [Harry] McPherson, [Abe] Fortas on the eleventh-(Interruption) G: You were saying that the McPherson-Fortas meeting-- C: I don't think that meeting had--I was just looking up . . . No, that probably related to the D.C. Crime Bill, which
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 42 (XLII), 2/14/1989, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • to be a topic we talk about because among other things [Abe] Fortas was deeply involved in whether the President had authority to do that. And that led to my suggesting we set up a meeting the next day which the President set up and add [Jack] Connor, [Willard
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 44 (XLIV), 3/29/1989, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • getting closer. (Long pause) Now this is in my office on August 29. This is not with the President. If this is August 29, this is [Abe] Fortas--looks like Fortas--saying that any cutback in domestic programs is wrong on the merits and on the politics
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 41 (XLI), 1/18/1989, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • right. Heller did. I see my memo reflects. Heller is hot to suspend the investment tax credit. I guess the President has me checking with [Abe] Fortas who thinks the investment tax credit should be suspended but doesn't think it's enough. And Fortas
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 60 (LX), 1/17/1990, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • , [Abe] Fortas, [Alan] Boyd, and the Fahy board, were for one or another kind of compulsory arbitration, ranging from legislating the Fahy panel report into place, to having some presidential board in effect do the same thing. [Clark] Clifford wanted
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 4 (IV), 8/21/1969, by Joe B. Frantz and Paige E. Mulhollan (Item)
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 11 (XI), 10/28/1987, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • Thanksgiving trying to get him to change a brief. Maybe we'll talk about him when we talk about [Abe] Fortas. Okay? G: Yes. Let's do. C: Okay, the reorganization of civil rights. . . . . What do you want to talk about now? I see LBJ Presidential Library
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 1 (I), 4/14/1969, by Joe B. Frantz and Paige E. Mulhollan (Item)
  • , Mr. [John] Hechinger, described it himself in one of our tapes. Were there a lot of instances like that? Was that fairly regular? C: That was one that I really was deeply involved in personally. I believe he did the same thing with [Abe] Fortas
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 8 (VIII), 9/21/1987, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • [Abe] Fortas here. I wonder if he talked to Fortas about the labor thing. Are those belts [Dictabelts?] available? G: No. C: Okay. Is there any way you can check just to see whether he talked about the strike? He wonders why he got the reputation
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 13 (XIII), 11/17/1987, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • Clifford and maybe through [Abe] Fortas--I just can't remember--we sent out the word that we would certainly audit the hell out of the expense accounts of the executives of these companies. G: Was that easy to do? Was that something that IRS would
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 36 (XXXVI), 9/21/1988, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • of compulsory arbitration or have to vote on the issue of breaking a strike which he thought would hurt--these are the Great Society Democrats-hurt them get reelected. I had a meeting with Clifford and [Abe] Fortas and Wirtz and we talked about we've got to get
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 43 (XLIII), 3/28/1989, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • in the merger. When did that merger issue come up? The end of 1966? The Penn-Central? G: It started long before that. C: Yes, but when did we have the meetings and [Abe] Fortas--I can't remember. We got a paper on it. B: Thanksgiving. 1966. C: So it's
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 56 (LVI), 11/21/1989, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • the stuff on that. Because it's got a lot of both Romney and [Abe] Fortas and the difficult presidential thing. I'd also like to get when Romney returned from Vietnam and changed his mind about Vietnam and said he was brainwashed. I think it was John Roche
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 7 (VII), 6/17/1970, by Joe B. Frantz and Paige E. Mulhollan (Item)
  • in that job would have had the kind of access that somebody on the White House staff had or a cabinet officer had would have been if he were a good friend of the President's, if he were a Bill Deason, or an Abe Fortas, or a Clark Clifford or somebody like
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 19 (XIX), 1/27/1988, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • was in the Pentagon then. Among the things I do remember is getting Abe Fortas and McGeorge Bundy and Vance I guess down to the Dominican Republic to get [Joaquin] Balaguer put in power. But I think, you know, Johnson always thought that Fulbright didn't like
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 20 (XX), 1/28/1988, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • ? And I think he always regarded the ABA as kind of a stuffy organization. I am dimly beginning to remember actually a meeting with the ABA Judicial Selection Committee or the ABA president, somebody which may have come during the [Abe] Fortas-- G: He
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 24 (XXIV), 3/16/1988, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • . . . . And then in the afternoon at three o'clock he's got [Abe] Fortas and [Clark] Clifford in the office with him. They're going over the State of the Union. He wouldn't let anybody in. Then he starts this whole series of calls to me and Valenti. G: Making further changes? C
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 45 (XLV), 5/23/1989, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • if he called himself. It may not be logged in. C: God. [Abe] Fortas is really all over this. Okay. In any case, let's get on with this. G: You think this is about April 4, 1966? C: I think this happened on April 4. Well, I just, maybe I'm wrong
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 2 (II), 5/27/1969, by Joe B. Frantz and Paige E. Mulhollan (Item)
  • , incidentally, that both [Clark] Clifford and [Abe] Fortas were at that meeting. In any case, I never heard anything more about going to work for the White House until the day that Bill Moyers was announced as press secretary. And I was just reading that over
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 6 (VI), 10/17/1969, by Joe B. Frantz and Paige E. Mulhollan (Item)
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 10 (X), 9/23/1987, by Michael L. Gillette (Item)
  • : Well, I had a meeting--these memos are all dated August 23, and I see in my book here I had a meeting on Saturday, August 21; this book is invaluable. I mean I just never [remembered]--I forgot all about the meeting--my first seeing of Fortas when I