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Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 11 (XI), 10/28/1987, by Michael L. Gillette
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- . They did it on the day of the night the President went to New York to meet the Pope [Paul VI] the following day if my recollection is correct. To say that Johnson was distressed is-- (Laughter) G: What did he say? C: Well, we found out about
- Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh Califano -- XXXIX -- 8 attention to it except in that message to Congress in March, but probably because the Pope [Paul VI] kept sending him
- me to convey his personal greetings to Pope Paul. F: Did the Pope seem to have any feeling for Mr. Johnson one way or another? LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories
Oral history transcript, Lawrence F. O'Brien, interview 15 (XV), 11/20/1986, by Michael L. Gillette
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- of the zip code; working with, and learning from, European mail systems; trips to Europe to learn about their postal systems; O'Brien's visit with Pope Paul VI and their conversation regarding Vietnam; efforts to improve mail service between the U.S
- by that time, I was probably assistant director of the Pub 1i c Ut il it i es Di vi s i on as I remember it. Johnson and Douglas had become very close friends, saw one another regularly. Douglas and his wife at that time, whose name was Mildred, were frequent
Oral history transcript, J. Russell Wiggins, interview 1 (I), 7/23/1969, by Paige E. Mulhollan
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- was, and I was aware that he was a supporter of the administration, that he had been identified with it. M: You went off to work for the New York Times, I believe, for a little while. W: I was a Washington correspondent to the St. Paul Pioneer Press
- on his kind of manhood. he was John the Baptist. [In] that story he was Saint Paul But that one thing! He bitched about it~ ~ and he probably still is today because he never forgets. M: That's what he remembers. S: Yes. M: What did he do
Oral history transcript, Ellsworth Bunker, interview 3 (III), 10/12/1983, by Michael L. Gillette
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- out of our book in the Falklands and imposed censorship right away. G: Now let me ask you about the President's March 31 speech. You were I believe watching the television in the Embassy with General Westmoreland, Bob Komer, Barry Zorthian and Paul
- had it in my geography influenced that. blood~ and to some extent I grew up in a part of Arkansas that was not under the contagion of war~ although there were skirmishes in my county. F: Which county is this? H: It's western Arkansas~ Pope
- ; Community Relations Service; Roy Wilkins; Pope Paul; Southern Committee on Political Ethics, 1967-1968.
- . I would say he was by far the most effective fellow there. I was impressed with him. The day happened to be the day, I know, that [the election of] Pope Paul VI was announced, his papacy began [June 21, 1963]. Because I was sitting by Joe O'Meara
- with the President of Pakistan [Ayub Khan] while we were there, about two hours. Then we went on to Rome, where the President met the Pope, and then on back to Washington. G: You're right. That's perhaps the trip you're talking about. Now, there was about fifteen
- to be in Paris when the Germans invaded France, when they crossed the border. sisters was with me. I was in my mother's apartment in Paris. Here we were with a car and very little gasoline, and no coupons for more gasoline, not knowing what to do. Paul
- in the cockpit looking over my shoulder. remember where it was. Wei re going somewhere· I doni t even But he often came into the cockpit, kidded me some .. M: Pretty relaxed i ndi vi dua l? C: Very much so. He rested whenever he could on the airplane. I
- with it the offices of Pope and chairman of the board of the House of Morgan." That's a reflection of the view of the press at that stage of the game. F: He didn't \'/ant to step down to the presidency. A: He didn't want to step down. He was waiting
Oral history transcript, George E. Reedy, interview 8 (VIII), 8/17/1983, by Michael L. Gillette
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- LBJ and the Majority Leadership and various Senate activities, 1955; committee assignments; LBJ and Drew Pearson; LBJ and the oil industry; foreign aid; LBJ and organized labor; Paul Butler; LBJ and Eisenhower; LBJ's heart attack; Whitney speech
- . Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh Hurst -- VI -- 9 diet--which also was taught to me by Paul White, who pushed not only that exercise, returning to work
- Oral history transcript, J.Willis Hurst, interview 6 (VI), 10/31/1995, by Ted Gittinger
- ' LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh l 1 INT ERV I Ei~ VI DATE
- Oral history transcript, J.J. Jake Pickle, interview 6 (VI), 8/17/1972, by Joe B. Frantz
Oral history transcript, Harry C. McPherson, interview 6 (VI), 5/16/1985, by Michael L. Gillette
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- LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh INTERVIEW VI DATE: May 16, 1985
- Oral history transcript, Harry C. McPherson, interview 6 (VI), 5/16/1985, by Michael L. Gillette
- ://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh Rather -- VI -- 7 Well, I'll tell this, I might scratch it out when I read it. Paul Porter was the funniest man in the whole world. He was from Kentucky. He was the head of the OPA, Office of Price Administration. He said one
- Oral history transcript, Mary Rather, interview 6 (VI), 9/17/1982, by Michael L. Gillette
Oral history transcript, George E. Reedy, interview 6 (VI), 5/23/1983, by Michael L. Gillette
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- LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh INTERVIEW VI DATE: May 23, 1983
- Oral history transcript, George E. Reedy, interview 6 (VI), 5/23/1983, by Michael L. Gillette
- LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh INTERVIEW VI DATE: July 24, 1984
- Oral history transcript, Robert G. (Bobby) Baker, interview 6 (VI), 7/24/1984, by Michael L. Gillette
- LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh INTERVIEW VI DATE: October 17
- Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 6 (VI), 10/17/1969, by Joe B. Frantz and Paige E. Mulhollan
- LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh INTERVIEW VI DATE: October 13
- Oral history transcript, Arthur Krim, interview 6 (VI), 10/13/1983, by Michael L. Gillette
Oral history transcript, James H. Rowe, Jr., interview 6 (VI), 12/9/1983, by Michael L. Gillette
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- LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh INTERVIEW VI DATE: December 9
- Southern Manifesto; farm legislation; Francis Case; social security; LBJ and Paul Butler; LBJ and Nixon; 1956 Democratic National Convention
- Oral history transcript, James H. Rowe, Jr., interview 6 (VI), 12/9/1983, by Michael L. Gillette
Oral history transcript, Phyllis Bonanno, interview 4 (IV), 2/18/1984, by Michael L. Gillette
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- looked at the little skirmishes as something that the Russians were using vis-à-vis us to get us to back off when we tried to pressure them too much. I'm not too sure that he ever looked at them, or that anybody was telling him that he should look at them
- , and with him went some of the more conservative--this was back in the '50's. The second was Pope John who had suggested that an ecumenical movement was possible within the context of the Catholic Church, and released the willingness to negotiate on the part
- -- I -- 2 McG: No, I haven't. McS: Who primarily brought you into government? McG: I was asked to come over to the Defense Department by Norman Paul, whom I later succeeded as assistant to the secretary for legislative affairs when Norm became
- of cour se Colonel J im Cross -- he is ve ry pr ominent i n the a dvance p l annin g . Frequently a s a mat t e r of fact, they would send a Pre s i denti a l p lane out ahe ad to time to land on t he air fiel ds that might be vis ited just to make s ure
- , forget it, You can get along with Paul Harkins. II I hadn't met Hark ins at that time. The person that backed me on this was Averell Harriman. Since we couldn't get any satisfaction vis-a-vis the Defense Department or any positive position out
- Situation on arrival in Vietnam as Ambassador; Chief of MAAG; General McGarr; Taylor-Rostow mission; Ed Lansdale; task force chaired by Roswell Gilpatric; impressions after traveling in the provinces; Viet Cong tenacity; Colonel John Paul Vann
- and sisters, his family, and he had little confidence in other people. The whole family had literally an attitude of contempt vis-à-vis other people, and so it was very difficult for anyone to approach Mr. Diem, and the members of the other political parties
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 24 (XXIV), 3/16/1988, by Michael L. Gillette
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- were how to handle the war, vis á vis the Great Society, whether to continue with the Great Society programs, could the country take another massive legislative dose of medicine, and whether there was any reason to begin putting any brakes
- with school integration at that point, and the application of Title VI and all of the rest. And I think he wanted to get this job done; we did it for him in the appointed time. M: Did he see you personally less than other Presidents, he had less personal
- , yes or no, and their word was law. G: Was that Lister Hill? C: Lister Hill, yes, on the Senate side. If Paul Rogers said, "No," I don't know why you'd waste your time. 4 LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT
- is fuzz it up, so in the end it's pretty fuzzy language as to where it is. I think that over time you'll see the secretary strengthening his position vis-à-vis the administrators. Alan Boyd moved fairly quickly to do that, actually. M: Was there any
- and the popes and emperors of Rome woul d have set up touncil s for thi s and that and everything if they hadn't been convinced, either from \'Ihat they had heard of past ones or of what they perceived the current situation to be, that it would do more good than
Oral history transcript, James C. Thomson, Jr., interview 1 (I), 7/22/1971, by Paige E. Mulhollan
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- in charge of the sections or departments. So the first thing I did \vas get acquainted idth the Departr.1ent of Justice and its I operations. F: What were your principal problems vis-à-vis the Justice Department? I T: One, suppose, you'd be checking
- by the Senate. F: Let's go back and talk a little bit about Mr. Johnson's program vis-a-vis your brother, President John F. Kennedy. As you know, President Kennedy had a program partially underway and things in 4 LBJ Presidential Library http
Oral history transcript, Joseph A. Califano, interview 27 (XXVII), 4/19/1988, by Michael L. Gillette
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- would have [been] ideal. We couldn't get him. He had other fish to fry. He didn't want to take it. He didn't see anything in it for him. He saw another monumental civil rights battle. G: Yes. How about [Paul] Douglas? C: Douglas was a wonderful man
- , and them under the American flag . That was the crux of the problem . M: So the heat then came from the shipbuilders? B: Shipbuilders and the unions . And the problem was further exacerbated by the fact that the Maritime Union, the SIU, Paul Hall's