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  • there and that sort of thing. But why would you want to go to Canada? It's a wonderful country and a great friend of ours, but I think if you and Mavis just want to go somewhere partially for the experience, why not go to Buffalo, New York?" I got to thinking about
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)
  • or some similar position before they would get to know him to the point where he would be a factor in national politics. I felt that he could carry the South; I felt that he could carry Texas; but I didn't know what the people of New York
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  • for this, "but not Barry Goldwater. II There were about six things and all of them, "but not Barry Goldwater." And it ended by saying this ye3f we're going to elect a new president, "but not Barry Goldwater." So I sent it to Bill Moyers. the Democratic Convention
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  • group like that could dragoon the legislature. He thought it was frightening. The question was, what could be done in the Senate? Well, the Senate Post Office Committee capitulated pretty quick. Then the question came to the Senate floor. I told
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  • with the New Deal liberals. What was the significance of that? That was part of it, and part of it I think was a 10 LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org More on LBJ Library oral histories: http://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh ORAL
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  • : INTERVIEWEE: MICHAEL FORRESTAL INTERVIEWER: PAIGE E. MULHOLLAN PLACE: Mr. Forrestal's .office, Shearman and Sterling, 53 Wall Street, New York City Tape 1 of 1 M: You're Michael Forrestal. You were a Far Eastern expert with the National Security
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  • like maybe they t"ere just a half-mile or a mile aHay. I said, They said, '~'lell, ''Yes, I see those hills." they're just saturated ,"ith the enemy. They're just si tting there ,-latching uS right now." That wasn't really happy news, I thought
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  • was in such a bind him- self--he was the new superintendent--he said, "Just go in there and take charge." Those kids were about to tear the building down. I went in there and stayed seven years. (Laughter) G: Was it common for jobs to get passed along like
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  • : It was in a New York paper. Well, then the other time was a barbe- cue and we were both there. That was during the campaign. night of the election, we were in the Driskill [Hotel]. upstairs. The He came I remember we were standing there and he shook hands
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  • services. Then we get to the post-award phase, the third phase, and this was the trouble phase, when in December, 1962, I guess with the prodding of Senator [Henry] Jackson, the McClellan Committee got into this thing. At least partly because of some
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  • primarily in the economic area, such things as statements on the Kennedy Round after its conclusion, on the messages to Congress, on the special drawing rights legislation, on the amendments to the fund, the rather dramatic New Year's Day balance of payments
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  • I dated. This was not the first Every time I meet somebody new in the Marine Corps they will come up and say, "Is that true? We heard that story." LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson
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  • the door where he could get in, so he wouldn't have to touch the door. I don't know what his [trouble with Johnson was]. got in that. Of course, he Well, they were just anti-New Deal, first place, see. It wasn't Lyndon. Of course, it became personal
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  • to be doing it fast. Everybody was upset, of interest that is, including Mary Lasker. And she called, "How much do you need?" "I don't know, but give me twenty thousand to start with." She sent it down on the next plane. She had one of her people in New York
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  • ://discoverlbj.org/exhibits/show/loh/oh Boatner -- IV -- 3 still was apprehensive, but I went ahead with the plans and got an airline to say that it would bring them in on a training flight. They were training some new pilots to go to Australia, and they would
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  • practice. It's not like the law practice in New York City or in any other part of the world. You're dealing very basically with sort of the interrelationship between big American business and the United States government so that an awful lot of your
  • that there was some time ago an article in I believe it was the New York Times which indicated that he asked for a lot more troops than he was given. He had plans as to how he would use those troops, in the event they were made available to him, but he said he
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  • about LBJ and the press during this He seems to have been more sensitive to what he regarded as negative news stories than he had been before. R: Was this the case? To him a negative news story was one which did not begin "Sincere, positive
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  • contribution I could have made was going to some of the more populous states and maybe securing some of the secretaries' of state support. In Texas of course secretary of state is appointive and it's a fairly weak office, but in New York, Illinois, California
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  • to me that he was doing a lot of illegal things that were against the law. The financial transactions were very complicated. They involved great banks and ships and European bank accounts and New York bank accounts and [were] just very complicated. G
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  • fond of him. I know just before he got his appointment they flew up to New England to talk to Governors and LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More
  • ; Cissy McQuade; LBJ’s famous phone calls; Califano; LBJ’s staff; Punta del Este speech; Bill Roth; Kennedy Round; Maurice Stands; “The American Establishment;” Wilbur Cohen; impact of the Commerce Department; New England foreign trade zone; Secretary
  • and economic and social orientation. But he had not through all those years communicated that to the liberals or to the people like me at all; that was a new awakening. B: Back in the 'SO's, the late 'SO's, you were close to Rubert Humphrey who was also
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  • parallel to the British regimental system of picking their new officers. M: Perhaps. 16 LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon B. Johnson Library Oral Histories [NAID 24617781] More on LBJ Library oral
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  • . there. And Actually the rent, I roomed with She had a little house; it's still standing down It's on the northwest corner of the intersection where the Methodist Church is there, right close to where the bank and the post office and all that is now. But she had
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  • correspondents, had been on the wire services, had worked for papers like the New York Times, the Chicago Tribune, would come through our office anywhere from one to any number a day. They just wanted to work for just something to eat for that day
  • . And, by then--of course, as soon as Kennedy was elected, I more or less became the liaison man between some contrite religious leaders and the new Catholic President of the United States! And I did assist in setting up some interviews for some leaders, some religious
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  • down at the Derby. And then she went to New York, with the fight between the Vanderbilts and the Astors over who was going to take over society there, and she said, "I'm a Desha from Kentucky [inaudible]." She did, you see. I'm trying to say that's
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  • such that Now there may have been one or two dissenters, but I don't remember that they made it known. F: There was some talk of a floor fight by some of the people who opposed Senator Johnson. T: That's right. F: Did you do any ,york with other
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  • under James Eastland. S: Right. F: And I forget who you've got in the House, but undoubtedly-- S: Manny Geller from New York. F: You didn't have any problem as far as the committee in the-- S: In the House. F: What do you do to jack it out
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  • to the President--call from New York. It would be something that wasn't within the United Nations at all, and he would just push his opinion off on Johnson. He felt like he had a lot to say, and it needed to be heard. G: What about White House staff members? Were
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  • by that it was something that could be put on the air. B: You broke the news to the President of Walter Jenkins' arrest, didn't you? R: I think I did, but I'm not altogether certain. 3 LBJ Presidential Library http://www.lbjlibrary.org ORAL HISTORY TRANSCRIPT Lyndon
  • he was supposed to campaign for Jim Murray, and boy, Murray was in trouble, bad trouble. There was--what the devil was his name? He had been a reporter for the New York Times and he had gone over to the far, far right wing of the Republican Party
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  • Bill. Well, why? I owned 50 per cent interest in Padre Island at that time, in the property, with a Connecticut Yankee partner I had out of Connecticut. I call him my Connecticut Yankee partner. We had bought the property from a lawyer in New York who
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  • , and of thing . lot on And it was an important post to him because he relied a people . M: lines . The organization of the state was along congressional B: Correct . M: And you were assigned here . B: district, and then in turn He had one man assigned
  • for Humphrey after President Johnson decided that he wasn't going to run. Then I went ahead and moved over and started working for Humphrey, and I handled for Humphrey I handled New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Texas, of course, and I had Michigan, and out of those
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  • that certain individuals right here in the Pentagon, at a very early date, leaked all the details of this to the New York Times, as you probably recall. This generated the usual reaction that you get here in the United States, generated by people who
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  • election to Congress in 1937 in that special election, what was the significance of Texas to your father and to the New Deal at the time, politically? R: Well, of course, it was a very important state to have good contacts and good people with whom he
  • Post-Presidential (Jan. 21, 1969-)